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Here are the current ********* rankings of every division Floydy has fought in. Ring placed him in their top p4p slot after July of '05 when Taylor knocked off Hopkins. He had been #2 during Hopkins reign which didn't last long, starting from when long time Ring #1 Jones got knocked out by Tarver with the shot heard 'round the world.
Light middle: 1. Sergei Dzindziruk
2. Oscar De La Hoya
3. Vernon Forrest
4. Joachim Alcine
5. Ricardo Mayorga
6. Sechew Powell
7. Verno Phillips
8. Lukas Konecny
9. Joel Julio
10. Cory Spinks
11. Travis Simms
12. Z. Baysangurov
13. James Kirkland
14. Daniel Santos
15. Sergio Martinez
16. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
So far, so good. Floydy only one fight here, faced the #2 guy, but what a dire list. Mayorga #5? Not a comprehensive win for Floydy, but a disputed split.
Welter: 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Antonio Margarito
5. Carlos Quintana
6. Paul Williams
7. Kermit Cintron
8. Andre Berto
9. Zab Judah
10. Joshua Clottey
11. Yuri Nuzhnenko
12. Luis Collazo
13. Shamone Alvarez
14. Jan Zaveck
15. Demetrius Hopkins
16. Richard Guttierez
Floydy top dog here, but only faced one guy on the list, #9, Judah, a fight Floydy should have been DQed in when good ol' Uncle Rog jumped in the middle of a round and attacked Judah. The other top guys have been fighting each other the last few years. Floydy holds the WBC belt, and hasn't faced WBC #1, Berto, or #3, Collazo. Hmmmm, Floydy's first fight after ascension to number 1 was welter fight against Mitchell, not exactly p4p material, then Zab, and then? OK, must of been based on previous work, so let's look on,
Junior Welt: 1. Ricky Hatton
2. Andreas Kotelnik
3. Ricardo Torres
4. Paul Malignaggi
5. Timothy Bradley
6. Juan Urango
7. Kendall Holt
8. Junior Witter
9. Herman Ngoudjo
10. Lovemore N'dou
11. Randall Bailey
12. Vivian Harris
13. Gavin Rees
14. Souleymane M’Baye
15. Marcos Maidana
16. Victor Ortiz
OK, Floydy's fought the top junior welt in his last fight, but fought him at welter. Well, Floydy only in this division 3 fights, so lets look further.
Lightweight: 1. Nate Campbell
2. Joel Casamayor
3. Juan Diaz
4. Michael Katsidis
5. David Diaz
6. Amir Khan
7. Joan Guzman
8. Julio Diaz
9. J.A. Santa Cruz
10. Almazvek Raimkulov
11. Jesus Chavez
12. Prawet Singwancha
13. Yuri Romanov
14. Randy Suico
15. Edner Cherry
16. Anthony Peterson
Floydy has fought only the #11 guy, Jesus Chavez, but fought him as a superfeather, so lets look further.
Superfeather: 1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Edwin Valero
4. Alex Arthur
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Jorge Barrios
7. Humberto Soto
8. Cassius Baloyi
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Urbano Antillon
11. Kevin Mitchell
12. Mzonke Fana
13. Gairy St. Clair
14. Rocky Juarez
15. Malcolm Klassen
16. Vitali Tajbert
Hmmm, Floydy ain't fought a single top superfeather.
So, in the 5 divisions in his career, the Ring #1 has fought 3 of the current top 79 fighters in the list. Is this possible, or ever happened before?
Just a glance at Floydy's comp for this Ring honor, Manny Pac is scheduled to challenge the #5 lightweight in a couple of months. Floydy's fight with Oscar still unsigned and may not be for a title.
Manny has fought his main ********* superfeather challenger, #2 Marquez twice now, and #5 Barrera twice also.
At feather, Manny has fought the #11 guy, Jorge Solis. No fighter beyond feather on the ********* rankings appears on Manny's record, so that's 5 fights with ********* current top fighters vs 3 for Floydy. Manny will be making his debut in a division 7 divisions above his debut weight which was just a single pound over the strawweight limit. Maybe had Manny known he was making this kind of history, he could've chewed gum and spit for a hour before the weighin and made the strawweight limit.
Some consider Joe Calzaghe in the running, though he's had only one fight above his debut weight. He's recently beat the ********* #2 lightheavy, being #1 himself, and beat the #2 supermiddle, the #9, and the #14 for 4 fights against the ********* rankings.
It seems to me that Manny fits the original definition of p4p fighter, dominating the divisions well above his debut, compared to Floydy who seems to be tiptoeing and teetering these past few years since obtaining the Ring honor.
Maybe someone can refresh me on how Floydy obtained this lofty title in the face of this substantial competition. If it's defeats by Manny, well, Joe undefeated.
What say you? Anyone work for Ring care to "chime" in?
Light middle: 1. Sergei Dzindziruk
2. Oscar De La Hoya
3. Vernon Forrest
4. Joachim Alcine
5. Ricardo Mayorga
6. Sechew Powell
7. Verno Phillips
8. Lukas Konecny
9. Joel Julio
10. Cory Spinks
11. Travis Simms
12. Z. Baysangurov
13. James Kirkland
14. Daniel Santos
15. Sergio Martinez
16. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
So far, so good. Floydy only one fight here, faced the #2 guy, but what a dire list. Mayorga #5? Not a comprehensive win for Floydy, but a disputed split.
Welter: 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Antonio Margarito
5. Carlos Quintana
6. Paul Williams
7. Kermit Cintron
8. Andre Berto
9. Zab Judah
10. Joshua Clottey
11. Yuri Nuzhnenko
12. Luis Collazo
13. Shamone Alvarez
14. Jan Zaveck
15. Demetrius Hopkins
16. Richard Guttierez
Floydy top dog here, but only faced one guy on the list, #9, Judah, a fight Floydy should have been DQed in when good ol' Uncle Rog jumped in the middle of a round and attacked Judah. The other top guys have been fighting each other the last few years. Floydy holds the WBC belt, and hasn't faced WBC #1, Berto, or #3, Collazo. Hmmmm, Floydy's first fight after ascension to number 1 was welter fight against Mitchell, not exactly p4p material, then Zab, and then? OK, must of been based on previous work, so let's look on,
Junior Welt: 1. Ricky Hatton
2. Andreas Kotelnik
3. Ricardo Torres
4. Paul Malignaggi
5. Timothy Bradley
6. Juan Urango
7. Kendall Holt
8. Junior Witter
9. Herman Ngoudjo
10. Lovemore N'dou
11. Randall Bailey
12. Vivian Harris
13. Gavin Rees
14. Souleymane M’Baye
15. Marcos Maidana
16. Victor Ortiz
OK, Floydy's fought the top junior welt in his last fight, but fought him at welter. Well, Floydy only in this division 3 fights, so lets look further.
Lightweight: 1. Nate Campbell
2. Joel Casamayor
3. Juan Diaz
4. Michael Katsidis
5. David Diaz
6. Amir Khan
7. Joan Guzman
8. Julio Diaz
9. J.A. Santa Cruz
10. Almazvek Raimkulov
11. Jesus Chavez
12. Prawet Singwancha
13. Yuri Romanov
14. Randy Suico
15. Edner Cherry
16. Anthony Peterson
Floydy has fought only the #11 guy, Jesus Chavez, but fought him as a superfeather, so lets look further.
Superfeather: 1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Edwin Valero
4. Alex Arthur
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Jorge Barrios
7. Humberto Soto
8. Cassius Baloyi
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Urbano Antillon
11. Kevin Mitchell
12. Mzonke Fana
13. Gairy St. Clair
14. Rocky Juarez
15. Malcolm Klassen
16. Vitali Tajbert
Hmmm, Floydy ain't fought a single top superfeather.
So, in the 5 divisions in his career, the Ring #1 has fought 3 of the current top 79 fighters in the list. Is this possible, or ever happened before?
Just a glance at Floydy's comp for this Ring honor, Manny Pac is scheduled to challenge the #5 lightweight in a couple of months. Floydy's fight with Oscar still unsigned and may not be for a title.
Manny has fought his main ********* superfeather challenger, #2 Marquez twice now, and #5 Barrera twice also.
At feather, Manny has fought the #11 guy, Jorge Solis. No fighter beyond feather on the ********* rankings appears on Manny's record, so that's 5 fights with ********* current top fighters vs 3 for Floydy. Manny will be making his debut in a division 7 divisions above his debut weight which was just a single pound over the strawweight limit. Maybe had Manny known he was making this kind of history, he could've chewed gum and spit for a hour before the weighin and made the strawweight limit.
Some consider Joe Calzaghe in the running, though he's had only one fight above his debut weight. He's recently beat the ********* #2 lightheavy, being #1 himself, and beat the #2 supermiddle, the #9, and the #14 for 4 fights against the ********* rankings.
It seems to me that Manny fits the original definition of p4p fighter, dominating the divisions well above his debut, compared to Floydy who seems to be tiptoeing and teetering these past few years since obtaining the Ring honor.
Maybe someone can refresh me on how Floydy obtained this lofty title in the face of this substantial competition. If it's defeats by Manny, well, Joe undefeated.
What say you? Anyone work for Ring care to "chime" in?
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