who are A,B,C Class fighters in your opinion

[markosg]

i dont agree with that list at all

Wlad is a very skillfull HW but his chin seperates him form being Elite IMO he would get KO by a lot of the Elite HW

i cant comment on Roy being a B Class fighter cause im to stunned

Baldy a B Class fighter

Currently Roy is B level that is why he is not even ranked in the top 10 LHs in the world..... points victories over Anthony Hanshaw, Prince whatshisname and a retired Felix Trinidad do not suggest that he is elite level anymore. when was the last time Glen Johnson dominated and knocked out a top 10 LH???

[markosg]

Also how can you disagree with Baldomir being B and not Judah?????? Don't tell me Judah is a C level fighter.....

[Dynamite Kid]

I promise you, Chris Eubank is the definition of an elite fighter. He beat Watson twice, beat and drew with Nigel Benn, fought two huge wars with Steve Collins and gave a young Calzaghe what I think remains the hardest fight of his career.

This is what I mean by perspective man, I'm not dissing you, but I'm pretty sure most people think Eubank, Benn and Watson were elite fighters.

Most people dont see Eubank and Benn as Elite

if u think Mike Watsons is Elite u should take a look at the beating Mike McCallum handed out to him then u will see a clear difference in levels

i grew up watching Benn & Eubank & they got me into watching Boxing back in the 90's but i aint about to pretend they are better than they are because i happen to be from the same country as them or because they are so popular among all us British fans

Eubank was beaten by a complete bum in Dan Schommer but got a gift decision and he wanted no part of Herol Graham or Mike McCallum ,Toney ,Jones

[Dynamite Kid]

Also how can you disagree with Baldomir being B and not Judah?????? Don't tell me Judah is a C level fighter.....

its like having Shane Mosley above vernon Forrest ya dig

[markosg]

its like having Shane Mosley above vernon Forrest ya dig

Yeah but surely it's fair to say that they are roughly the same level........ But granted he is borderline.....

[abadger]

I wouldn't call any them elite.............. it's easy to think that they were given that they were made such a big deal over here, but all any of them were were title holders.None of them holds a career defining win over anyone outside of that group (and no.......... Iran Barkley and Gerald Mcllellan were no A class! before you start)

I see what you're saying, and actually the fighters in the B group aren't exactly bad! However, I'm sure all of those three were absolutely at elite level in terms of skills and were easily at the same level as their US competition around the time. None of Jones or Toney took them on either! Just being in the US and beating US opponents does not make your record automatically better. James Toney's best wins were Nunn, McCallum and Barkley, and Roy Jone's was James Toney! I don't think that these are far and away superior to some of Benn and Eubank's best results.

I take your point however, that Jones in particular indisputably did ultimately achieve more, and he does belong a clas above the Eubanks and Benns of this world.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yeah but surely it's fair to say that they are roughly the same level........ But granted he is borderline.....

borderline i would'nt agrue with that TBH

[tito yuca]

who are A,B,C Class fighters in your opinion

A Class : Elite

B Class : very good but not Great

C Class average /decent


Elite : Jones JR ,Mosley ,Dela Hoya ,Calzaghe ,Hopkins,Pacman ,Barrera ,Morales ,Lewis ,Holy,Tyson,
Whitaker,Chavez ,Floyd ,Toney ,McCallum,Foreman,Winky,Cotto,Tito

B Class : Eubank ,Corrales ,Castillo ,Benn ,Gatti ,Hatton ,Pavlik,Judah ,J Taylor ,

C Class :C. Baldomir ,G Rees ,V Nardiello ,Steve Robinson ,


this may stur up a hornets nest but im gonna run with it anyway if u dont agree fair enoough but lets keep it civil ,add your own lists these are just the fighters that spring to mind thier are plenty more ive have forgotten

You DO know that Baldomir beat Gatti and Judah right?

[Dynamite Kid]

I see what you're saying, and actually the fighters in the B group aren't exactly bad! However, I'm sure all of those three were absolutely at elite level in terms of skills and were easily at the same level as their US competition around the time. None of Jones or Toney took them on either! Just being in the US and beating US opponents does not make your record automatically better. James Toney's best wins were Nunn, McCallum and Barkley, and Roy Jone's was James Toney! I don't think that these are far and away superior to some of Benn and Eubank's best results.

I take your point however, that Jones in particular indisputably did ultimately achieve more, and he does belong a clas above the Eubanks and Benns of this world.

Eubank & Benn never fought any fighters of the calibre of Mike McCallum

[markosg]

I see what you're saying, and actually the fighters in the B group aren't exactly bad! However, I'm sure all of those three were absolutely at elite level in terms of skills and were easily at the same level as their US competition around the time. None of Jones or Toney took them on either! Just being in the US and beating US opponents does not make your record automatically better. James Toney's best wins were Nunn, McCallum and Barkley, and Roy Jone's was James Toney! I don't think that these are far and away superior to some of Benn and Eubank's best results.

I take your point however, that Jones in particular indisputably did ultimately achieve more, and he does belong a clas above the Eubanks and Benns of this world.

It's not that Eubank and Benn (especially) are def not elite but there is no evidence to back it up. Though eubank had a bunch of close decisions against bums but would always be competitive with Benn. But it's only us Brits that rate them as elite cause everyone remembers the so called 90s golden age. I'm sure in Germany they must regard Michaelzewski, Henry Maske and Sven Ottke similarly to how the press look at those fighters when the rest of the world never really knew much. The reality is that they were all solid B level title holders.

Toney only proved himslef to be elite in my eyes when he beat Jirov and then moved to heavy.