If Cotto wins how will the win effect his legacy?

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  • tredh
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    #21
    Originally posted by Addison
    Well, according to an article published here on Boxingscene there was a debate held among some of the leading experts in Puerto Rico and at least one of them felt that a victory over Margarito would elevate Cotto to #1 status as the greatest Welterweight in the history of the country.

    My feeling is that a win over Margarito cements Cotto's position as one of the best fighters in the sport right now.

    Unfortunately, there are a fairly large number of fans and observers who think Margarito is a hype with a flawed record.. Too many in fact. That means that Cotto is taking a fight that another fairly large number of people believe is extremely dangerous, for essentially no reward and no appreciation.

    Ultimately, if Cotto wins this fight in actuality; Margarito will be inevitably devalued as a guy with multiple losses, no signature wins over elite competition, and the product of fan and media exaggeration.

    I'm still trying to figure out why in the hell Cotto is fighting this guy from a business, career, and legacy standpoint. If it doesn't look good as a win 6 months from now it sure as **** won't look good as a win 25 years from now. In terms of risk versus reward it's borderline ludicrious. Especially considering Cotto is already a bonafide star.

    I agree with this post.

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    • The Surgeon
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      #22
      Originally posted by muppetman
      YEA compared to what he was built up to be he was just a little exposed but not to an extent where you can say "damn williams sucks"cause in fact williams is a threat still to any welterweight as long as he is making the weight correctly and not killing himself.
      Yeah thats exactly what im sayin bud yeah. No shame in losing to CQ anyway that kids got skills!

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #23
        You know what the haters will say and have said "Marg already has 5 losses he is a hyped bum." Now Marg IS overhyped but a win over him is DAMN GOOD and it would solidify any doubt as to Cotto being the WW to beat. Bring on Floyd!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Terrible...
          ROBO #1 Ill take a bet with u if your interested Quintana to beat Williams
          Cool cool but it will have to be a small bet coz ive already got some points to pay for a gif and have other bets on PLUS i aint too sure lol! Couple of K cool with u Terrible?

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            #25
            Originally posted by ROBO #1
            Cool cool but it will have to be a small bet coz ive already got some points to pay for a gif and have other bets on PLUS i aint too sure lol! Couple of K cool with u Terrible?
            if u are interested let me know how much u are willing to bet

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              #26
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills
              You know what the haters will say and have said "Marg already has 5 losses he is a hyped bum." Now Marg IS overhyped but a win over him is DAMN GOOD and it would solidify any doubt as to Cotto being the WW to beat. Bring on Floyd!
              If Cotto and Mayweather both come thru it HAS to happen i honestly cant think of a fight ive EVER wanted to happen more it will be HUGE!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Terrible...
                if u are interested let me know how much u are willing to bet
                2K? All i can really afford. God damn it i used to be a baller on here!
                Worth mentioning i will be rooting for Quintana

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ROBO #1
                  2K? All i can really afford. God damn it i used to be a baller on here!
                  Worth mentioning i will be rooting for Quintana
                  2k done sig it ROBO

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                  • Addison
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    I agree.

                    If Cotto wins convincingly, Margarito just becomes another hyped up fighter.
                    It would happen, we can be sure of that if Cotto prevails.

                    Originally posted by Cabannaro
                    Cause he hasn't a $750K clause and Arum can't make more lucrative fight for him.

                    Cotto once said that Tony lost his opportunity to fight him when he chose to fight Williams instead and lost. He definitely didn't want to fight him, but he suddenly became the hostage of his "I'll fight anyone put in front of me". Just like Tony was the most feared man... suddenly not by Williams.
                    Arum could make other fights, I disagree. A rematch with Mosley would have been a potentially more lucrative option for Cotto with very little to lose even in defeat. And that's not to say that would happen anyway. Mosley seems less dangerous than Margarito at this point.

                    Mayorga has also put his name in the mix at 147..


                    The second part of your post is spot on. I fully agree and that's well stated.

                    Originally posted by ROBO #1
                    Yeah i agree Marg will be discredited in the immediate aftermath of the fight (should Miguel win) never mind in years to come. Dispite what some of my posts might lead one to believe im all to well aware of the threat Tony brings,as is Cotto, although i still feel Cotto gets the win. I love Miguel and Margs attitude, especially miguels since he more to lose, they fight anybody! The way it should be! **** risk/reward and all that **** the make the fights that need to happen! Perhaps not the smartest way to handle ur career but if u truely believe ur the best then the thought of losing shouldnt come in to it.
                    Well, alright. Risk/Reward goes out the window. I like how you put that.

                    The truth is though, Margarito's name isn't even in the discussion of who is the best Welterweight in the world. Cotto's name is. It isn't even exchange for where Cotto is right now. And if something goes wrong there will likely never be a De La Hoya or Mayweather fight for Cotto. That's alot to lose.

                    Cotto is right here right now. He's that close to the huge money and the Undisputed this and the P4P that, ect.. What's he doing ****ing around with Margarito? Makes no sense, it's a Top Rank setup. Bob Arum's whole reasoning for Boxing not being dead at the press conference was an explanation of television ratings in Mexico. Dude is plotting.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ROBO #1
                      If cotto wins`well or even just clearly against Margarito how will it effect his legacy? 10years from now will people look at it as a key fight in his career or simply just another fight!? Theres a big buzz about this fight and a genuine sense of danger but on paper Tony dont look as good as he actually is, i mean Five losses 1 against a guy who was skooled by a guy Cotto crushed in 5! Slow, crude no real names in the W colum other than Cintron. So whats ur thoughts?
                      cotto's win over mosley is better for his legacy than this fight with margarito.

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