Boxing Video: Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito LA Presser

[ANDROID_DOES]

thats the thing. he was trying to do all those things but couldnt. floyd said he was going to do what oscar said he was going to do but didnt fight that way. to me, the fight wasnt BAD. it was actually a solid fight. something id like to see for free on HBO you know what i mean? but imagine going back to work in a place full of Kimbo stans and UFC maniacs the following Monday?

YEAH BUT OSCAR DIDN'T DO MUCH EITHER. OSCAR'S ONLY PLAN WAS TO TRY TO THROW WILD PUNCHES WHILE FLOYD WAS ON THE ROPES. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING OSCAR DIDNT DO ANYTHING. EVEN WITH ALL HIS ADVANTAGES OVER FLOYD. SOME UFC FANS ARE IDIOTS! MOST ARE NEW COMERS THAT DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SWEET SCIENCE AND WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON IN A BOXING RING. TO ME UFC IS BORING. NOTHING TO ME IS EXCITING ABOUT WATCHING GUYS WRESTLE TRYING TO BEND ARMS, KNEES AND ANKLES. IM LUCKY THE UFC FANS I KNOW ARE ACTUALLY BOXING FANS AS WELL.

[Addison]

This has got to be some kind of record for a presser video thread..

Anyway, just ****ing listen to Arum talking about his connections to Mexican business interests.. Wow. One piece of evidence after another.

[2501]

YEAH BUT OSCAR DIDN'T DO MUCH EITHER. OSCAR'S ONLY PLAN WAS TO TRY TO THROW WILD PUNCHES WHILE FLOYD WAS ON THE ROPES. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING OSCAR DIDNT DO ANYTHING. EVEN WITH ALL HIS ADVANTAGES OVER FLOYD. SOME UFC FANS ARE IDIOTS! MOST ARE NEW COMERS THAT DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SWEET SCIENCE AND WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON IN A BOXING RING. TO ME UFC IS BORING. NOTHING TO ME IS EXCITING ABOUT WATCHING GUYS WRESTLE TRYING TO BEND ARMS, KNEES AND ANKLES. IM LUCKY THE UFC FANS I KNOW ARE ACTUALLY BOXING FANS AS WELL.

yeah this is the society we live in now. people want to play checkers now instead of chess. its that damn MTV and BET.

[2501]

well, the tea party was nice ladies. but i need to get my beauty sleep.

[ANDROID_DOES]

well, the tea party was nice ladies. but i need to get my beauty sleep.

SAME HERE ADIOS!

[Horus]

Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million

"We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.


Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
6 fights in the United States before the fight...

Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,


So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...







Floyd fighting a Nobody(Baldomir) is almost the equivalent to and better than

Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. Paulie Magg. 100,000 PPV buys



So please do put Mayweather into perspective....Before you diss..
Because when you look at the situtions and circumstances...

Oscar had the same kind of numbers vs. a fighter Like Baldomir with little previous exposure in the US...

Oscar vs. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys
and that was after 3 mega superfights.....


So when you are trying look Floyd Numbers as a joke.....

The Question is Who Could of Had better P.P.V with Baldomir then Floyd did...???



I wont even argue the Judah PPV because You get Smoke....

@ Puya...

[Vladimir303]

@ Puya...

Horus I don't think he even read that. But certainly you're not suggesting that Floyd is on Oscar's level in terms of popularity.

Oscar Delahoya is right up on the level of Mike Tyson in terms of drawing power. I made an argument that Floyd played a BIG part on the success of The World Awaits but even I won't go that far.

[Horus]

Horus I don't think he even read that. But certainly you're not suggesting that Floyd is on Oscar's level in terms of popularity.

Oscar Delahoya is right up on the level of Mike Tyson in terms of drawing power. I made an argument that Floyd played a BIG part on the success of The World Awaits but even I won't go that far.

No i am not saying Floyd is as Popular as Oscar.....
as a manner of fact Floyd draw does not come from Popularity it comes from him being Infamous....

I wrote an entire thread about this...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171894

I was comparing Oscar and Floyd to put Floyd vs.Baldomir into perspective...
Oscar being the Number #1 P.P.V seller of All time

vs.

Floyd Mayweather the supposedly non draw.....

[Horus]

Floyd

Floyd Mayweather is adding to his popularity everyday and he added to his “popularity” even more in the Hatton fight. He had overwhelming support because of the British fans booed the National Anthem...
You can hear the fans Screaming "U.S.A" and "FLOYD" throughout the whole fight....But I think that was just for that fight you never know though

But Now...


"Floyd is more Notorious rather than popular."

Floyd Mayweather is the most "Notorious" fighter in the game... He is without a doubt the most “Famous”
His "Fame" is second to only Oscar among Active Fighters
He is the most "Revered" boxer in the game... Floyd will never be the most Popular (loved) fighter right now because he has chosen to take the bad guy road... it doesnt meaned he isnt popular but he is more Notorious right now rather than Popular
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History

As of right now I don’t think WHAT Floyd is doing is a bad thing....
Some of the most "Famous and successful" people history has ever known
Have been more "Notorious" than Popular... or Have been "Notorious" before they became "Popular"

Al Capone
2pac
Biggie
Ali
Malcolm X
Kobe Bryant
Terrell Owens
Deion Sanders
Britney Spears
Charles Barkley
Scarface (Tony Montana)
The list goes on....
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My Point

Floyd notoriety and fame is what sell's the fight's not his popularity ....
Floyd being "Notorious".... sells the fight

People just don’t come to see Floyd lose just like they just didn’t come to see Ali lose...

People come because they are interested in Floyd.
He is a "hot rod" for debate as we see in the millions of threads, articles, stories, and interviews we see made about him....

If you think Floyd wasn’t half the reason for the first de la hoya P.P.V numbers then your crazy...

If you think Floyd wasn’t Majority of the reason for the Hatton fight then you’re crazy...


Floyd's widespread reputation of being "Notoriously" a great fighter and an Arrogant Person is what makes Floyd the most famous fighter in the game...

HBO, WWE, Rock Star understands this that's why they give him so much money...

The whole Boxing world Understands this that's why he is the most "Famously Celebrated" fighter in the sport.....

Oscar is the most Popular Fighter in the Sport
Floyd is the most "Notorious".... and "Celebrated"

Floyd like it or not, Is the 2nd Biggest Draw in the sport not because he is popular.....It is because he is "Notorious"....



Let's The HATE CommEnsE...!!
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[Vladimir303]

No i am not saying Floyd is as Popular as Oscar.....
as a manner of fact Floyd draw does not come from Popularity it comes from him being Infamous....

I wrote an entire thread about this...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171894

I was comparing Oscar and Floyd to put Floyd vs.Baldomir into perspective...
Oscar being the Number #1 P.P.V seller of All time

vs.

Floyd Mayweather the supposedly non draw.....

Notorious/Popular whatever it is.....That's like being a heel and a face in wrestling. Heel is the bad guy and Face is the good character.

Either way Floyd doesn't come close to the Mike Tyson's or Delahoya's. Mike Tyson was notorious.....baddest man on the planet they say. But Iron Mike is known all around the world like MIchael Jordan in basketball or Hulk Hogan in wrestling. Anybody and everybody know these guys on this planet. Delahoya isn't on that level but he is the closest to that level of any of the boxers around. Floyd isn't in the discussion if you look at it from that point of view.