Vitali Klitschko: "I Would Have Knocked Lennox Lewis Out"

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  • Kris Silver
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    #181
    Claims of one or two lucky punches, or bad part of the gloves/laces are pretty lame aswell even when just looking at that pic. His right cheek, nose, left inner eye brow have taken some decent knocks aswell. Checkout the swelling, they're straight up punches.

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    • Johnny Blayzz
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      #182
      Originally posted by edgarg
      My last points on this topic.
      /\ /\ /\ Unfortunately just Edgarg letting out some more Bull ****...

      Originally posted by edgarg
      I'm NOT dis*****g that Lewis won the fight. You are too ignorant to realise that.
      /\ /\ /\ Wait a minute; you're to ignorant to even spell R-E-A-L-I-Z E properly (no surprise)...LMAO... And if Lewis in your mind won the fight, then why are you arguing against almost everyone that it shouldn't have been stopped (obviously siding with the Klitschko loving gay fans of the sport who think he should have been simply given a Win in his only fight against a "REAL" Champion, a fight in which the DOCTOR STOPPED (how many times do you need to be told something before YOU get it anyways???) ... Obviously even more Bull **** from Edgarg, and a waste of time...

      Originally posted by edgarg
      I do not disagree that when he retired he was the best regarded Champion, BUT there were several other Champions around at that time, both before and after Lewis retired, and he hadn't fought them. I think the only actual reigning champions he ever fought were Holyfield when old, and the Rahman rematch. Oh yes, he had that one with Oliver McCall, dragged out of an asylum, who broke down crying in the ring. That was a GREAT win and built up his record. But McCall wasn't then champion, he was just a very needy medical case against whom a Human Rights crime was committed.

      When he retired I believe he held only the WBC title and NEVER, except for a brief period held more than 2 titles. He may also have had a tinsel title something like the WBF or the NBF or the IBO or the ABC..... maybe the DEF.....Yes-it was the XYZ.
      /\ /\ /\ OK so there's that famous word "BUT" coming outta Klitschko's gay fan base again, and this statement is a perfect example of an oxymoronic comment ("NEVER, except for a brief period"... LMAO...so lemme get this straight, you do not disagree that when he retired Lennox Lewis was the best Heavyweight Champion, and then you go on wasting most of your time arguing that he really wasn't...? OK if you say so...) BTW Vitali Klitschko never EVER defeated a recognized Heavyweight Champion of the World... NOT EVER!!! Keep that in mind before you go biting off more than you can chew next time...

      Originally posted by edgarg
      I am not what you so vulgarly and ignorantly state. I have no scrap books, when I was fighting it wasn't considered "sporting" to be so self engrossed. Rather silly I now realise. There's more experience and knowledge about boxing, both as a sport and as a business in my discarded tissue, than a P***k like you has in his whole body.
      /\ /\ /\ LMAO... Ok so you boxed in gym class until you were like 11 or something... Good for you Edgarg, and what has your love for the sport compelled you to do with it at this point in your life... Obviously nothing important!!! Hmm lets see, you do manage to still whine and complain on a boxing forum about something you can never change though, and (at least try to) insult the people who actually care enough about this sport and it's future to get off of the couch and help promote it (and I mean real fight cards, not some made up delusional boxing fantasy world for ****'s where Vitali Klitschko is King) ... And if your never had a real fight but you still think you know everything about boxing's ***** ass really believes the tissue you jerk off to Klitscho on actually has boxing knowledge...??? Well then that just proves how pathetic you and your deluded rants truly are and why we should keep people like you in institutions; you know, so you don't hurt yourself... Unlike Oliver McCall who was only a few days outta rehab when Don King had him crying in the ring while fighting Lewis for a second time. Remember though Edgarg that Lennox showed class in spite of the mockery and didn't even want to hit the man as it was evident that McCall had no business being outta rehab at that point... Tyson's former sparring partner turned former Heavyweight Champ clearly had drug issues causing him to act all irrational and start crying, what's your excuse Edgarg???
      Last edited by Johnny Blayzz; 05-22-2008, 03:01 PM.

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      • edgarg
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        #183
        Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
        Look into the pic, his eye is wide open!!!
        "oversensitive fanboys". I'm a very responsible man of Senior years, with a lifetime's experience of fighting, refereeing, even family promotor connections.
        I've probably had more fights than you've seen.

        Klitschko doesn't need defending, you simple guy. He doesn't know me, I don't know him. I'm defending the truth. When not otherwise working, it exercises my perceptive and collating attributes......in other words, just something to do other than crosswords.

        Only a fool gets angry in reaction to some unknown, ignorant nincumpoop who's probably sitting behind bars somewhere with a keyboard, whiling away the years until freedom arrives....again. I DO get a little re-actively sharp when I'm personally attacked, so for this, please accept my apology. But your poorly formed (downright silly) accusations speak volumes about you. Take comfort, You're not alone, there are multitudes of your calibre out there, as these and other pages show. [How they ever get through school, get jobs, find girls interested in them, raise families etc I'll NEVER know] But, since this is the best boxing website, (in my opinion) it also attracts the better quality and class of boxing enthusiasts. And I certainly enjoy reading those letters.

        You are not one them.

        I'm defending the FACTS. One day, in the distant future, you guys will stop writing all this re-active, twisting-the-facts crap...... ONE DAY....... If you try hard, it may be TWO DAYS.......

        The picture shows that Klitschko could SEE PERFECTLY, that his eye nor eyelid were NOT affected by the cuts or small swelling. So the stoppage was WRONG. Don't talk nonsense about nerves being cut. The Doctor said he couldn't LIFT HIS EYELID (meaning the nerve was already cut) and this is why he stopped it. We KNOW that this is not true. The picture tells us so. And, as the analysts pointed out, the eyebrow cut was no worse than it had been 3 rounds before. They were baffled as to why it was stopped at THAT point. AS WAS THE WHOLE AUDIENCE. They BOO'D Lewis mighitly, and CHEERED Klitchko . It was said that Lewis was finished and wouldn't have been able to come out for the next round...........so who knows????

        Never mind what I say, or Klitschko says, use your OWN intelligence [or am I expecting too much?].

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        • edgarg
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          #184
          Sorry Mike 77 This wasn't for you

          Mike 77 this was meant for a guy named Blazes or something like. He 's the sort that ANY time spent on him is wasted time, I reaslise that so have finished. My computer jumps around sometimes.

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          • Allucard
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            #185
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            In a recent interview with The Edmonton Journal, former heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko spoke about the most famous bout of his career, the 2003 six-round war with Lennox Lewis. Klitschko says if the fight was not stopped on cuts, he would have knocked Lewis out. During the back and forth action, Klitschko suffered several big cuts on his face and the severity of the cuts led to the stoppage. [details]
            He maybe would have. But lets not forget Lewis was coming off a one year layoff and was 39! Winning vs a future champion such as Vitali under those conditions is GOAT like. Lewis also retired at the right time considering the terrible performance in that fight (which he still won by TKO never forget that).

            I want to see Vitali around at 39 fighting young contenders such as David Haye. Can't wait to see what he has to say then.

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              #186
              im a big vitali fan, my only objection with the stoppage was that if it was going to happen it should have happened earlier when the cut was gushing blood.

              also, the doctor, who was keeping watch between rounds should have issued an ultimatum... "you have one more round and im stopping it" before bringing the fight to an abrupt halt.

              i have to agree w/ threadstealer that the cuts under vitali's eye were not mere "scratches" but at the same kind i agree with edgars point that those same cuts, regardless of severity.. had no impact on vitali's vision and should not have been a consideration in stopping the fight.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Allucard
                He maybe would have. But lets not forget Lewis was coming off a one year layoff and was 39! Winning vs a future champion such as Vitali under those conditions is GOAT like. Lewis also retired at the right time considering the terrible performance in that fight (which he still won by TKO never forget that).

                I want to see Vitali around at 39 fighting young contenders such as David Haye. Can't wait to see what he has to say then.

                I wonder what Lennox would say, considering he was 37 when he fought Vitali.

                You Lennox fans are so bad that you exaggerrate his age as if it weren't a well known fact. Now that shows true bias. Edgarg would never claim Vitali was 2 years older than he actually is.
                Last edited by Hitman932; 05-22-2008, 04:12 PM.

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                • Johnny Blayzz
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                  #188
                  LMMFAO....

                  Wow it sure looks like something's got your panties in a bunch Edgarg...

                  To be honest, I'm not trying to take this to a "real' personal level... I don't know you at all obviously and couldn't possibly have a valid opinion of you personally and I'm sure most people on here clearly understand that (most)... So you can take your hypocritical holier than thow attitude and blah blah blah...

                  But regarding this thread titled :Vitali Klitschko "I Would Have Knocked Lennox Lewis Out"... you picked your side and I picked mine... Lennox won that fight, and for Klitschko to say he's boxing's Nostradamus is a ****ing joke!!! And so is any real boxing fan who says anything in agreement with that sentiment... That's my position on Vitali's comment... PERIOD If you want to defend it feel free to make an ass outta yourself, you already have if you honestly believe I'm "angry" LMAO... I find this thread rather humorous to be honest...

                  FACT:Klitschko's night was stopped BY THE DOCTOR because of multiple cuts and only god knows what would have really happened had the fight continued...

                  Klitschko may have actually had something of a valid point to some of his fans if he only claimed that the stoppage was premature; however I've seen many fights stopped on cuts with less damage, that's simply part of the game. I also can say that cuts like those (and one was in a really bad place over Vitali's eye) normally bleed. Now, looking at the globs of who knows what on Vitali's cuts in the pictures and knowing what banned substances European fighters often are allowed to use for cuts in places like Germany for example (which unfortunately is another very different part of the game), make me at least wonder about Vitali's integrity more than I'd normally admit; because I do like the Klitshcko's as boxers and have watched many of their fights. But neither of these two guys will ever be on the same level as Lennox Lewis was, and Lennox to some even was a bit of an underachiever which is really saying a lot... Vitali's career as a Paper Champion was another mockery as I recall him ducking and dodging real contenders and opting to fight a couple of shall we say not really Champion caliber boxers and then retiring... He has no legacy which is par for the Paper Championship course, BOO HOO WHOO CARES!!!!
                  Last edited by Johnny Blayzz; 05-22-2008, 05:19 PM.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Bastard Man
                    Vitali murder1 Haye.
                    Don't argue, you know it's the truth.

                    Nothing more needs to be said.
                    I don't know WHAT you see in that carefully shaded and dramatized print. None of the carefully highlighted abrasions or blood means much to a real boxer. The eyebrow tear was stopped and coagulated a couple of rounds before and was no problem. And I hope you see that BOTH eyes are WIDE open. NO lid trouble. The Dr. made a "boo-boo". [or, as I said, may have had money on Lewis @5-1-just joking]

                    For your information, 10 days after the fight, Klitschko gave an interview. He said that he himself couldn't even see a scar, and he allowed a zoom-in to prove it. Not a scar, bruise nor sore remained anywhere on his face.

                    He wanted to justify his outrage at the fight having been stopped

                    All this constant picture repetition just shows how LITTLE you guys actually KNOW about boxing as active or closeup participants.

                    Look up the March 25th 1962 Basilio-Robinson 2. A closeup of Carmen Basilio's left eye is enought to make you ill. The ESPN report says, " by the 6th it's swollen, by the seventh it's completely shut. When the (15 rd) fight's over, Basilio's eye is grotesque looking, swollen to the size of a discoloured billiard ball...... Basilio said he couldn't see from it from the fourth rd on".

                    I happened to see that fight at THAT time, and I saw the eye close-up too. I saw all of Robinson's famous middleweight fights when they happened, except for the Turpin fights. Basilio's completely closed eye WAS about the size of a billiard ball.

                    This has been much written about by gifted boxing writers, described as....."like a rotten g****fruit" etc.etc.

                    I've stopped being critical, am just trying to put things in perspective.

                    And, before I forget, for the "undiscovered genius" with whom I've been exchanging fire, (his name is Blazer I think) the word "surprise" IS spelled s-u-r-p-r-i-s-e [by all the "best" people]. How he pronounces it is his business. As I told him, he's somehow learned to read, now he must learn to understand.

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                    • edgarg
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                      #190
                      BLAZER so sorry to let you know that I was just kidding. The word you're so worried about "realise" is spelled both ways. I wonder why you didn't realise that.

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