I'm sorry, but Calzaghe defeated Hopkins comfortably

[MELLY-MEL...]

You forgot to mention "with the help of steriods". Injecting terpenoid lipid before bouts hummmmmmmm was Jones so great?

gimme a break with this nonsense.

[mojack]

He got tested for steroids once....not against Hopkins.

You people crack me up trying to use that steroid **** to degrade a great fighter.

**** outta here.

Yeah sorry, taking steriods is perfectly ok and doesn't effect a fighters performance. RIP Roid Jones Junior.

Once a stedhead, always a stedhead. The fact is he took steriods.
No excuses.
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[Vladimir303]

Yeah sorry, taking steriods is perfectly ok and doesn't effect a fighters performance. RIP Roid Jones Junior.

Like I said.....he tested positive for steroids once. Check your facts before you mouth off like an idiot.

And if you wanna talk steroids, Vargas got knocked out while he was on steroids against Delahoya. Mayorga got knocked out while on steroids against Delahoya.

You european bums need to check yoselfs.

[bsrizpac]

Yeah sorry, taking steriods is perfectly ok and doesn't effect a fighters performance. RIP Roid Jones Junior.

Once a stedhead, always a stedhead. The fact is he took steriods.
No excuses.

Goofball. He was taking Ripped Fuel. Check the ingredients from the time of the positive test.

Oh wait, that would require research.

[Vladimir303]

Goofball. He was taking Ripped Fuel. Check the ingredients from the time of the positive test.

Oh wait, that would require research.

Oh yea.. I knew somebody posted something about that but I didn't pay attention


Ripped Fuel - is a thermogenic weight-loss and bodybuilding drug, and is advertised as an advanced new fat loss formula.

There you have it clown.....to lose weight. All there was to it.

[mojack]

Take the bait girls, take the bait...

Ohhh Roy Roy, we love you Roy...ohh wait a minute Roy let me take my head out of your Roid ass.
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[bsrizpac]

Take the bait girls, take the bait...

Ohhh Roy Roy, we love you Roy...ohh wait a minute Roy let me take my head out of your Roid ass.

I know you're not gonna admit this, but come clean: You're European right? I like how you don't have that listed in your public info.

[Vladimir303]

Take the bait girls, take the bait...

Ohhh Roy Roy, we love you Roy...ohh wait a minute Roy let me take my head out of your Roid ass.

Man you are one lame corny mutant.

[mojack]

Man you are one lame corny mutant.

Jesus man I quit! your insults are way below the belt. You calling me a mutant put me in tears.
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[abadger]

To return to the subject of the thread for a moment, and to answer some of the posters who say that Joe Calzaghe winning requires some sort of corruption of the rules of scoring fights:

Lets be real, OK. You are basically saying that Hopkins deserved the win because the punches he through were crisper, harder and 'more effective'. That's fine, they probably were. The problem is that there really weren't a whole lot of them were there? For every one of Bernard's power shots Joe Calzaghe probably landed three shots, some of which were hard and accurate, others which were a bit winging and sloppy. The point is that they are all punches, thrown by a boxer on to his opponent, and which all count in the eyes of the judges. This argument that only 'effective' punches count, relies on the notion that everything Bernard threw was 'effective' and that all of the very many more punches that Joe landed were somehow 'ineffective', that they had no value in the fight.

Well, lets look at this. To my eyes the fight consisted basically of Joe Calzaghe chasing after Bernard throwing punches, landing a few and then getting clinched. Sometimes Joe would eat a counter on either the way into the clinch or out of it. If we are talking effectiveness of these punches, what effect did they have? Joe Calzaghe's blows seemed to have the 'effect' of making Bernard very reluctant to fight or trade, and seeking to clinch at every opportunity to avoid it, whereas the counters that Joe took did absoultely nothing to discourage Joe from coming forward, forcing the pace of the fight and seeking to engage with Bernard. Based on this, I know whose punches must have looked more 'effective' to the judges.

Effectiveness is measured on what result the punches achieve, not how aesthetically pleasing they are. Boxing is a fight, not some sort of athletic display like gymnastics.

Joe Calzaghe won the fight fair and square, deservedly, on points.