I have a ?

[The Gambler1981]

Why do people rate fighters from the past over fighters from the present without question.

In every sport records from 40 years ago are **** now, but when it comes to boxing people from 20,30,40,50,60,70 years ago can not be touched. They have great records and fought a bunch of great competition but people get better at things over time not worse.Has boxing technique devolved in peoples eyes this much.

That is not to say that great fighters from yesterday would not be great today or great fighters from today would dominate years ago just because they are better athletes.

[Jambo boy]

Why do people rate fighters from the past over fighters from the present without question.

In every sport records from 40 years ago are **** now, but when it comes to boxing people from 20,30,40,50,60,70 years ago can not be touched. They have great records and fought a bunch of great competition but people get better at things over time not worse.Has boxing technique devolved in peoples eyes this much.

That is not to say that great fighters from yesterday would not be great today or great fighters from today would dominate years ago just because they are better athletes.

boxing isn't the sport it used to be mate

[Boogie Nights]

i dont see any fighters today like sugar ray robinson. who stepped into the ring at 145 pounds to face a 160 pound jake la motta, lose, and come back after 2 WEEKS and beat him in the rematch, and continue beating him again numerous times after that

i dont see any fighters like henry armstrong who fought 27 times in one year scoring 26 kos. for most fighters today that's a whole career. i dont see many fighters today simultaneously holdong 3 world titles.

i dont see fighters like ali who after defeating joe frazier in the rematch stepping up against a guy like george foreman without taking any tune up fights. can you imagine fighting 2 hall of famers back to back. it's not your average hall of famers, it's foreman and frazier. for fighters like floyd it wouldnt be a part of smart business decision making

i dont see fighters like harry greb who fought half of their career blind in one eye. not only that, but having a legendary career at that

i dont see enough conditioned athletes today who can go more than 8 championship rounds without dying of exaustion. back in the day fighters fought 15 rounds.

i dont see fighters today ending their careers with more than a 100 wins

i could go on and on. to me it's insulting when i hear that fighters nowadays were better athletes than some of the legends that we had back in the day

[Hitman932]

it is a good point, you dont hear people saying

"man jesse owens would have smoked carl lewis, they just dont run like they did back in the olden days"

[The Gambler1981]

The first 2 Robinson-lamotta fights were fixed i believe. To me your belief is ludacris and you are way to romantic(idealistic) in your views. It is a different game now that why you should not compare.

Just because some dude has 178 win with 150 kayos does not mean he is better then some dude that has 45 fight with 37 kayos in an actual fight.

How much have you seen of any fight pre 1960 to say how great they truly are. If you see fights from then they are likely special fights and not some mundane **** that show some weakness.

Also im not agruing specifics its impossible to say who would win past or present in any given fight.

Condition and knowledge of the human body are atleast 5 times greater today tehn 100 years ago. We have learned so much about health, nutrition, how the human body works. I do not see how fighters today could be lesser athletes then today's boxers

Also just because they will not allow you to go on against your own health like they used to should not be held against todays fighters.

[The Gambler1981]

it is a good point, you dont hear people saying

"man jesse owens would have smoked carl lewis, they just dont run like they did back in the olden days"

This is all im really trying to say.

[T-97]

The first 2 Robinson-lamotta fights were fixed i believe. To me your belief is ludacris and you are way to romantic(idealistic) in your views. It is a different game now that why you should not compare.

Just because some dude has 178 win with 150 kayos does not mean he is better then some dude that has 45 fight with 37 kayos in an actual fight.

How much have you seen of any fight pre 1960 to say how great they truly are. If you see fights from then they are likely special fights and not some mundane **** that show some weakness.

Also im not agruing specifics its impossible to say who would win past or present in any given fight.

Condition and knowledge of the human body are atleast 5 times greater today tehn 100 years ago. We have learned so much about health, nutrition, how the human body works. I do not see how fighters today could be lesser athletes then today's boxers

Also just because they will not allow you to go on against your own health like they used to should not be held against todays fighters.

Heart and Dedication makes up for a lot of things.....

fighters used to have much more of it....

[Boogie Nights]

The first 2 Robinson-lamotta fights were fixed i believe. To me your belief is ludacris and you are way to romantic(idealistic) in your views. It is a different game now that why you should not compare.

Just because some dude has 178 win with 150 kayos does not mean he is better then some dude that has 45 fight with 37 kayos in an actual fight.

How much have you seen of any fight pre 1960 to say how great they truly are. If you see fights from then they are likely special fights and not some mundane **** that show some weakness.

Also im not agruing specifics its impossible to say who would win past or present in any given fight.

Condition and knowledge of the human body are atleast 5 times greater today tehn 100 years ago. We have learned so much about health, nutrition, how the human body works. I do not see how fighters today could be lesser athletes then today's boxers

Also just because they will not allow you to go on against your own health like they used to should not be held against todays fighters.

well im done with this thread, nice knowing you

[The Gambler1981]

sorry i hurt your feelings big guy

[Boogie Nights]

sorry i hurt your feelings big guy

didnt hurt em at all