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[The Gambler1981]

it's also counter intuitive to think floyd is the greatest when he won't let himself be fully tested against allcomers.
You're only as good as the people you fight. SRR faught allcomers
Floyd has had 7 8 fights against great fighters the rest weren't. He'll retire soon and everyone will say he's great because he's undefeated.
SRR went a hell of a lot longer undefeated.
Check his record out dude.
He's the greatest floyd isn't
You fail

Thanks for talking about what you think i am talking about and not what i am actually talking about. Once again your a giant amonst men. Thanks for bashing my opinion though i appriciate it.

[Jambo boy]

Thanks for talking about what you think i am talkign about and not what i am actually talking about. Once again your a giant amonst men.

ok whatever, i don't understand your ****** talk.
next time look at the facts and think before you type.
maybe change to a sport you know something about???
just a suggestion.
anyway i'm going to bed. it's been good talking to you in parts. bye

[The Gambler1981]

It has been like pulling teeth talking to you except more painful. If you feel the need to share your opinion with me please do not.

[BmoreBrawler]

Why do people rate fighters from the past over fighters from the present without question.

In every sport records from 40 years ago are **** now, but when it comes to boxing people from 20,30,40,50,60,70 years ago can not be touched. They have great records and fought a bunch of great competition but people get better at things over time not worse.Has boxing technique devolved in peoples eyes this much.

That is not to say that great fighters from yesterday would not be great today or great fighters from today would dominate years ago just because they are better athletes.

Modern fighters that are deserving like Tyson, Holyfield, De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Trinidad, and Lennox Lewis are as respected as any.

[The Gambler1981]

Modern fighters that are deserving like Tyson, Holyfield, De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Trinidad, and Lennox Lewis are as respected as any.

It does depend on the matchup of certain guys. I have never seriously seen a thread about all the ATGs DLH and Trinidad would beat or could possibly beat. I think if anyone made a thread like that people would be all down their throats argueing an improvable point.


I think your right about modern HW directly before the current era though. Mainly because of size. Also how much heat would someone get for saying Wlad would run through history dominating everyone.

[The Gambler1981]

I am playing devils advocate with the previous post, i do not rate DLH, Trinidad or Wlad that highly alltime. I think they could compete in any era though and could carve out thier own niche.

[Thread Stealer]

It does depend on the matchup of certain guys. I have never seriously seen a thread about all the ATGs DLH and Trinidad would beat or could possibly beat. I think if anyone made a thread like that people would be all down their throats argueing an improvable point.


I think your right about modern HW directly before the current era though. Mainly because of size. Also how much heat would someone get for saying Wlad would run through history dominating everyone.

Fighters nowadays may also have an advantage head-to-head because they're bigger due to different weigh-in procedures. You can put on a lot more weight in the 32 or so hours between the weigh-in and the fight than you can in 8 or so hours.

Welterweights like Baldomir, Margarito, Cintron have entered the ring at 160+.

Corrales and Castillo, as lightweights, would enter the ring at around 150 lbs.

[The Gambler1981]

Well when i consider fights accross eras i usually use today rules but its either or. I wouldnt consider SRR drying out the day of while a fighter from today had a whole day to rehydrate. It would make a difference though depending on what you are use to.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

For the argument that fighters of old were tougher, had more heart, and never took a backward step, I'd say they more likely were not aware of the physical damage they were risking compared to today. Sure I believe they were aware of possible brain damage or death, but because the sport was still new a lot of that hadn't been witnessed yet. Now days we can look back at all the fighters that have died or have received brain damage. Some guys that weren't in even that big of wars during their careers can still end up slurring their speech later in their careers. I think fighters today are more aware and take less risks because of it. You know that kind of stuff has to go through a fighters mind. In reality defensive fighting is the way to go if you value your life.

[Jambo boy]

For the argument that fighters of old were tougher, had more heart, and never took a backward step, I'd say they more likely were not aware of the physical damage they were risking compared to today. Sure I believe they were aware of possible brain damage or death, but because the sport was still new a lot of that hadn't been witnessed yet. Now days we can look back at all the fighters that have died or have received brain damage. Some guys that weren't in even that big of wars during their careers can still end up slurring their speech later in their careers. I think fighters today are more aware and take less risks because of it. You know that kind of stuff has to go through a fighters mind. In reality defensive fighting is the way to go if you value your life.

lol, yeah because boxing has only been about for a few years