Juan Diaz Won't Underestimate Joel Casamayor

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  • MaYaN_SuN
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    #11
    Originally posted by SinatraFan
    Why is Casamayor fighting a guy who got railed for his belts in his last fight, and not the guy with the belts? Does something seem wrong about this at all?
    ...lol He got floored by Katsidis, I think he knows he has to take one of the "safer of fights". And you sound like you know he's gonna lose

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      #12
      Originally posted by SinatraFan
      Why is Casamayor fighting a guy who got railed for his belts in his last fight, and not the guy with the belts? Does something seem wrong about this at all?
      the politics of dancing

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        #13
        Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
        ...lol He got floored by Katsidis, I think he knows he has to take one of the "safer of fights". And you sound like you know he's gonna lose
        Here's my thought process. Casamayor won the fight with Katsidis and has the "Ring belt". Why would he further damage the image of this already compromised belt by fighting a guy coming off of a loss?

        Don't get me wrong, Juan Diaz could win this fight. I'm not leaning towards him in this fight, but this is far from conclusive right now. Casamayor has lost a lot of favor with me since his post-fight interview where he called out guys like Morales and Barrera. He's shown that he's interested in the easier paydays.

        This is an easier payday than fighting Campbell.

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          #14
          Originally posted by SinatraFan
          Here's my thought process. Casamayor won the fight with Katsidis and has the "Ring belt". Why would he further damage the image of this already compromised belt by fighting a guy coming off of a loss?

          Don't get me wrong, Juan Diaz could win this fight. I'm not leaning towards him in this fight, but this is far from conclusive right now. Casamayor has lost a lot of favor with me since his post-fight interview where he called out guys like Morales and Barrera. He's shown that he's interested in the easier paydays.

          This is an easier payday than fighting Campbell.
          casamayor doesnt care about belts he vacated the wbc belt which is more important than the ring one and now he is gonna vacate the wbo belt
          hes obviously wants some money he realizes hes on his last legs and wants to make a good retirement fund by fighting diaz and getting a nice paycheck

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            #15
            Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
            casamayor doesnt care about belts he vacated the wbc belt which is more important than the ring one and now he is gonna vacate the wbo belt
            hes obviously wants some money he realizes hes on his last legs and wants to make a good retirement fund by fighting diaz and getting a nice paycheck
            I can understand that, I really can. It's just that when you couple this instance with Mayweather and Hopkins and other aging fighters holding their divisions hostage while others make moves below them, it kinda irks me a bit.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SinatraFan
              I can understand that, I really can. It's just that when you couple this instance with Mayweather and Hopkins and other aging fighters holding their divisions hostage while others make moves below them, it kinda irks me a bit.
              Hold up, Mayweather is an aging fighter?

              On a side note, why'd you chance your name from Asian Sensation? Tired of the **** Sensation jokes?
              Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 05-16-2008, 12:09 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SinatraFan
                Here's my thought process. Casamayor won the fight with Katsidis and has the "Ring belt". Why would he further damage the image of this already compromised belt by fighting a guy coming off of a loss?

                Don't get me wrong, Juan Diaz could win this fight. I'm not leaning towards him in this fight, but this is far from conclusive right now. Casamayor has lost a lot of favor with me since his post-fight interview where he called out guys like Morales and Barrera. He's shown that he's interested in the easier paydays.

                This is an easier payday than fighting Campbell.
                Cause he's hopin to see the same Diaz that Campbell got past? I mean he had issues with Katsidis. Mike is great, but prime Casa is lace-curtain in the wind compared to Mike Katsidis.

                Joel knows that, Joel probably is aware and feels that he isn't what he use to be, being that Mike gave him some issues. So now he's tryin to get some major money fights, lol Isn't Campbell tryin to do the same?

                Plus Casa already plowed through Campbell once, he really doesn't have anything else to prove to Nate. I mean if Joel was on some Hopkins **** where he felt he could still whoop ass even though he's lost a pretty step, then yeah, he'd fight Campbell, but I guess Casa knows that isnt him.

                Campbell has plenty of options still though, I mean Guzman just called him out, is Campbell gonna take that or what? Cause that would actually be a fun fight to watch.

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                  #18
                  Casamayor is too clever for him, moves too well. This will be another execution of old school, cagey veteran technique over blood and guts, Joel will repeat Nates feat and bag the decision

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                    Cause he's hopin to see the same Diaz that Campbell got past? I mean he had issues with Katsidis. Mike is great, but prime Casa is lace-curtain in the wind compared to Mike Katsidis.

                    Joel knows that, Joel probably is aware and feels that he isn't what he use to be, being that Mike gave him some issues. So now he's tryin to get some major money fights, lol Isn't Campbell tryin to do the same?

                    Plus Casa already plowed through Campbell once, he really doesn't have anything else to prove to Nate. I mean if Joel was on some Hopkins **** where he felt he could still whoop ass even though he's lost a pretty step, then yeah, he'd fight Campbell, but I guess Casa knows that isnt him.

                    Campbell has plenty of options still though, I mean Guzman just called him out, is Campbell gonna take that or what? Cause that would actually be a fun fight to watch.
                    I agree, that is very much the same idea I've had swimming in my brain. I just don't like how in boxing nowadays, you can claim to be the best without fighting the toughest guys in your division.

                    Campbell can fight any number of guys at 135, but without getting the chance to fight Casamayor, there will still be something lingering over his head.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SinatraFan
                      I agree, that is very much the same idea I've had swimming in my brain. I just don't like how in boxing nowadays, you can claim to be the best without fighting the toughest guys in your division.
                      Campbell can fight any number of guys at 135, but without getting the chance to fight Casamayor, there will still be something lingering over his head.
                      lol Yeah, thats been Boxing for the past 4 to 6 years.

                      But I don't think Casa can be put into that class of men, he took on Freitas and Corrales when they were the ones to fight and he did his thing.

                      He's put his work in, he's already beat Campbell, there's more glory and money waiting for him if he fights and gets by Diaz. Just cause Campbell is complaining won't change that. Both have had fruitfull careers, and these last days are gonna be played smart by both fighters.

                      I personally think both Campbell and Casa's days are numbered, so many more heavier and quicker hitters at lightweight, it's rediculous.

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