Joe Calzaghe's 14th fight, weighing 172 lbs

[abadger]

please stop with that compubox trash. it is in no way shape or form accurate and you know it if you saw that fight and watched calzaghe not land one single solid punch. now calzaghe hits harder than benn? you guys said it yourselves and are looking foolish. mitchell has no chin thats well known. he couldn't hurt lacy after landing tons of punches(sign of no power) veit is another guy who has no chin and has fought no one and every time hes stepped up has been ko'd. eubank is a blown up middleweight fighting a supermiddle and i just don't believe him anyway. joe "malignnagi" calzaghe. sorry for hating on your idol

Hate on our idol all you want. In answer to your questions, Joe beat Hopkins, anyway you look at it. Eubank said Joe hit him harder than anyone else. I don't have to say anything else.

[daggum]

Hate on our idol all you want. In answer to your questions, Joe beat Hopkins, anyway you look at it. Eubank said Joe hit him harder than anyone else. I don't have to say anything else.

anyway you look at it? well if you look at good solid punches that landed then no he didn't if you look at workrate and coming forward then yes he did. we all know clean punching is the main thing while scoring a fight i hope by now............
and just to get it straight you think calzaghe punches harder than benn now? plz confirm

[βetamax]

Is this the "prime" Calzaghe that people talk about as if he was a combination of Sugar Ray Robinson and Mike Tyson? He knocked out bums early in his career, big deal. Every elite fighter does that.

Some people are upset that Joe is/was so much better than Hopkins and the other middleweights of his generation. It ruins their little stereotypes.

"So much" better? Are you f'n kidding me? Did you not see Hopkins school him at age 43? Calzaghe won based on a workrate, a product of age. If you actually analyze the action and defense Hopkins provided he gave him a boxing lesson and made Calzaghe look like an amateur.

Explain your "stereotype" comment. That should be interesting.

[Johnny Rebel]

JC still has that power he justs has to sit on his punches much less,especially early to prevent himself from breaking his hand's or injuring his wrists early in a fight when he's fighting guys that will be able to take advantage of that. Trying to beat Kessler or Hopkins with a injured hand in the early rounds would've been tough.

[Johnny Rebel]

Is this the "prime" Calzaghe that people talk about as if he was a combination of Sugar Ray Robinson and Mike Tyson? He knocked out bums early in his career, big deal. Every elite fighter does that.



"So much" better? Are you f'n kidding me? Did you not see Hopkins school him at age 43? Calzaghe won based on a workrate, a product of age. If you actually analyze the action and defense Hopkins provided he gave him a boxing lesson and made Calzaghe look like an amateur.

Explain your "stereotype" comment. That should be interesting.

That's a bunch of bullocks! Hopkins gave nobody a boxing lesson, unless you mean his throw one right, follow that with a headbutt and hold Calzaghe in a headlock and then fake a low-blow to get a break when your about ready to get KO or quit is a "boxing lesson."

Calzaghe made Hopkins look like John Ruiz or an MMA fighter. Calzaghe not only threw twice as many punches, he also LANDED twice as many punches and if the fight had competent referees Joe would've won a UD by winning 8 or 9 rounds on every card, which he clearly did.

[daggum]

That's a bunch of bullocks! Hopkins gave nobody a boxing lesson, unless you mean his throw one right, follow that with a headbutt and hold Calzaghe in a headlock and then fake a low-blow to get a break when your about ready to get KO or quit is a "boxing lesson."

Calzaghe made Hopkins look like John Ruiz or an MMA fighter. Calzaghe not only threw twice as many punches, he also LANDED twice as many punches and if the fight had competent referees Joe would've won a UD by winning 8 or 9 rounds on every card, which he clearly did.

really? really? wait really? he did not land twice as many punches that is a myth generated by compubox you should watch it and count landed punches not misses or punches on the gloves or shoulders etc. you will find out the real story but beware you won't like what you find.

[βetamax]

That's a bunch of bullocks! Hopkins gave nobody a boxing lesson, unless you mean his throw one right, follow that with a headbutt and hold Calzaghe in a headlock and then fake a low-blow to get a break when your about ready to get KO or quit is a "boxing lesson."

Calzaghe made Hopkins look like John Ruiz or an MMA fighter. Calzaghe not only threw twice as many punches, he also LANDED twice as many punches and if the fight had competent referees Joe would've won a UD by winning 8 or 9 rounds on every card, which he clearly did.

Compubox is a complete joke. If you don't believe me go back and watch round 2 in slow motion just as an example. Compubox has Calazaghe landing somewhere around 15-18 punches when in reality you could count them with one hand and part of that is taps to the side and body during clenches that Compubox counts as "power punches". There was only a few clean, effective punches landed that round and they all belonged to Hopkins.

This is just one example and the same can be said in other rounds as well. Usually when I challenge someone to do this they respond with something like "I have a life" or "get over it" yet they can't take less then 10 minutes to do this but can spend all day discussing positives of Joe Calzaghe's performance.

[daggum]

the compubox operator was enzo calzaghe.

[abadger]

Compubox is a complete joke. If you don't believe me go back and watch round 2 in slow motion just as an example. Compubox has Calazaghe landing somewhere around 15-18 punches when in reality you could count them with one hand and part of that is taps to the side and body during clenches that Compubox counts as "power punches". There was only a few clean, effective punches landed that round and they all belonged to Hopkins.

This is just one example and the same can be said in other rounds as well. Usually when I challenge someone to do this they respond with something like "I have a life" or "get over it" yet they can't take less then 10 minutes to do this but can spend all day discussing positives of Joe Calzaghe's performance.

OK...yes B-Hop landed better shots than Joe, but quite simply he threw so very few of them that there is no way you could legitimately give him the fight. No doubt, Joe's punches did appear ineffective, mostly, but he DID land with some, more in fact, than Hopkins did. I totally understand the Hopkins won argument, it was a close fight, but really Joe won and deservedly so. I don't care abour compubox.

[daggum]

OK...yes B-Hop landed better shots than Joe, but quite simply he threw so very few of them that there is no way you could legitimately give him the fight. No doubt, Joe's punches did appear ineffective, mostly, but he DID land with some, more in fact, than Hopkins did. I totally understand the Hopkins won argument, it was a close fight, but really Joe won and deservedly so. I don't care abour compubox.

all ringside media did as well as a lot of boxing fans. they prefer few lands instead of many misses.