ok !! Shawn you argumentative bastard... IS FLOYD A COMPLETE FIGHTER EVERYONE?

[Horus]

He can pressure you, but he is fighting above his weight class so he must systematically break you down first then pressure you and walk you down. Now he doesn't use his jab as much as he used to, because now it is more of a range finder instead of a power jab like Ike Quartey's. But it's what you do with the tools. You can have all the tools in the world, but if you dont know how to fix the car, it's not gettin fixed.

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[!! Shawn]

Mayweather is about the only fella in the sport who seems to have all the physical tools plus the intangibles. In spades. He stands alone.

Unfortunately, that was not the question.

The answer to the question is no. Floyd is not a complete fighter, he is a very very good counter-puncher.

When is the last time you saw Floyd get on his toes and work behind a jab? Never? Exactly.

Complete is the ability to do EVERYTHING. That is not Floyd, he does what he does very very very very well, but he is not able to do everything.

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[THE REED]

Unfortunately, that was not the question.

The answer to the question is no. Floyd is not a complete fighter, he is a very very good counter-puncher.

When is the last time you saw Floyd get on his toes and work behind a jab? Never? Exactly.

Complete is the ability to do EVERYTHING. That is not Floyd, he does what he does very very very very well, but he is not able to do everything.

thats where you sir... ARE wrong.

[BmoreBrawler]

Unfortunately, that was not the question.

The answer to the question is no. Floyd is not a complete fighter, he is a very very good counter-puncher.

When is the last time you saw Floyd get on his toes and work behind a jab? Never? Exactly.

Complete is the ability to do EVERYTHING. That is not Floyd, he does what he does very very very very well, but he is not able to do everything.

spot on.

Floyd is IMO bernard hopkins with better D and speed.

[Left2body]

Mayweather is about the only fella in the sport who seems to have all the physical tools plus the intangibles. In spades. He stands alone.

I would say Rafael Marquez is there too. There is no place where you can say there is a weakness. He has power and can fight inside with you. He can box and work off his jab. He can counter you, he can lead off. He has both a good body and head attack.

[Addison]

Unfortunately, that was not the question.

The answer to the question is no. Floyd is not a complete fighter, he is a very very good counter-puncher.

When is the last time you saw Floyd get on his toes and work behind a jab? Never? Exactly.

Complete is the ability to do EVERYTHING. That is not Floyd, he does what he does very very very very well, but he is not able to do everything.

The idea that Floyd Mayweather cannot work off a jab is like Lance Armstrong not being able to ride a bike with training wheels. He doesn't need to jab. It's optional. His lead left hook and lead straight right are his jab, only they do far more damage. He does jab quite a bit BTW - to the body.

[!! Shawn]

thats where you sir... ARE wrong.

Evidence? The burden off proof lies upon you.

[THE REED]

I would say Rafael Marquez is there too. There is no place where you can say there is a weakness. He has power and can fight inside with you. He can box and work off his jab. He can counter you, he can lead off. He has both a good body and head attack.

wow thats a nice sig

[Addison]

I would say Rafael Marquez is there too. There is no place where you can say there is a weakness. He has power and can fight inside with you. He can box and work off his jab. He can counter you, he can lead off. He has both a good body and head attack.

I would agree with that.