Forget About The Chin - Can Cotto Handle Intense Pressure?

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  • GTL
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    #81
    Originally posted by Addison
    HaHA.. We've been through this Clottey broken hand business again recently and popular opinion says that was bull****. I don't need popular opinion though; I saw Clottey favoring his left hand 6-1 in favor of his right, and throwing his hooks with full power in the late rounds after he stopped pretending to be seriously injured. We've all seen hand injuries - they aren't accompanied by overuse of the injured hand afterward. Ever.

    The Mosley fight is turning into a Boxing MYTH. Watch the fight again only watch Mosley the entire fight instead of Cotto. Look how ****ed up and weak his **** was that night. I'm about 60-40 Judah over Mosley right now because of it. Real talk.
    i havent seen the fight ina while..
    i will rewatch it ina few weeks.. a lil short on time b/c of finals and skool work.. maybe you are right about that. i always assumed it was true since i remember the commentators saying it..

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      #82
      Originally posted by Addison
      That's excellent insight and refreshing objectivity, EL. I know you're a frequent Cotto supporter. Regarding this great disparity in skills; what exactly are you referring to?
      I think Margarito isn't as technically sound as Cotto is. He's more of a swarmer with so many punches. Cotto can box backwards if he has to, fight decent on the inside with his bodyshots and short uppercuts, and throws more accurate and precise shots. But, Margarito throws ALOT of punches, and although some say Cotto is a pressure fighter, he's nothing compared to Margarito, and I think it'll catch up to Cotto late if Cotto can't get to his body effectively. Then you have to take into account if the bodyshots will have any effect on Margarito as they had no effect on Shane. That's Cotto's only chance really is if he goes to the body and it actually slows or hurts Margarito. If not, it's Cotto's first L. By the way, it's not like Margarito doesn't throw murderous bodyshots, look what he did to Cintron. He just favors headshots more.

      Power=Margarito
      Technical Skill=Cotto
      Pressure=Margarito
      Will=Tie
      Stamina=Margarito(based off Cotto taking rds off against Mosley)

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        #83
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        Yes, Cotto can handle intense pressure.

        The ability to handle pressure is much more mental than physical. You don't survive being hurt against Ricardo Torres without being relaxed and mentally strong.

        Also, what the hell is with you calling me a Cotto nut hugger Addison? If you remember I picked Mosley vs Cotto. I thought Mosley deserved the decision and I felt Mosley hurt Cotto on a few occasions.

        You make it seem like I am building Cotto up to be gods gift to man. I am not, I am simply making the point that Margarito is a truly sub par champion no matter what criteria you use.

        Cotto is not a world beater. He is a man with an incredible body punch. Above average boxing ability, and a questionable chin. Stop calling me a Cotto fanboy!
        Cotto is not a world beater! I love it.

        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        It wasn't really his timing that was so bad as his distance control. He had a HUGE reach advantage but he wanted to get inside on Cotto for some reason. He got into range of Cotto's jab which should not have happened.
        Oh, it was his timing alright. That and quite a few other things.

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        • lance_uppercut
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          #84
          I'm gonna go ahead and say no. Sure, large marge seems kinda slow with his punches and all that but the thing that makes me say no is the fight with Mosely. I hear a good few people use the term "washed up" in reference to Sugar Shane and if he can noticeably affect cotto by applying pressure like he did in the later rounds of the fight it could be very telling of how one spoils Cotto's gameplan in future bouts...not that I'm comparing Margarito to Shane in style...I still think the point stands.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Queensdawg
            i havent seen the fight ina while..
            i will rewatch it ina few weeks.. a lil short on time b/c of finals and skool work.. maybe you are right about that. i always assumed it was true since i remember the commentators saying it..
            Check it out when you have a chance, QD. We might be seeing different things.

            Originally posted by ELPacman
            I think Margarito isn't as technically sound as Cotto is. He's more of a swarmer with so many punches. Cotto can box backwards if he has to, fight decent on the inside with his bodyshots and short uppercuts, and throws more accurate and precise shots. But, Margarito throws ALOT of punches, and although some say Cotto is a pressure fighter, he's nothing compared to Margarito, and I think it'll catch up to Cotto late if Cotto can't get to his body effectively. Then you have to take into account if the bodyshots will have any effect on Margarito as they had no effect on Shane. That's Cotto's only chance really is if he goes to the body and it actually slows or hurts Margarito. If not, it's Cotto's first L. By the way, it's not like Margarito doesn't throw murderous bodyshots, look what he did to Cintron. He just favors headshots more.

            Power=Margarito
            Technical Skill=Cotto
            Pressure=Margarito
            Will=Tie
            Stamina=Margarito(based off Cotto taking rds off against Mosley)
            Good post, I agree with most elements. Interesting stuff and in-depth.

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            • !! Shawn
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              #86
              Originally posted by Addison
              Cotto is not a world beater! I love it.



              Oh, it was his timing alright. That and quite a few other things.
              He still deserved the win.

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                #87
                how is margarito's power stronger than cotto any way to prove this?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  He still deserved the win.
                  Mosley made it easy as **** for him. He doesn't deserve the hype of the win because it's causing overblown expectations and rumor. Because Mosley was backing straight out and standing right in front of Cotto like a Century Bob Miguel Cotto is now the greatest Boxer since Willie Pep.

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                  • !! Shawn
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    Mosley made it easy as **** for him. He doesn't deserve the hype of the win because it's causing overblown expectations and rumor. Because Mosley was backing straight out and standing right in front of Cotto like a Century Bob Miguel Cotto is now the greatest Boxer since Willie Pep.
                    Captain ******o, I said Mosley still deserved the win.

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                    • Addison
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      Captain ******o, I said Mosley still deserved the win.
                      I disagree there. I think Mosley fought like garbage and deserved to lose.

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