So... Could Joe Calzaghe Ever Claim a Heavyweight Title?

[dc6112]

Could he beat a HW champ? By UD, definitely someone like Sam Peter or another out of shape slugger, his speed would be enough. Could he beat a prime RJJ? No, definitely not.

[THE REED]

Could he beat a HW champ? By UD, definitely someone like Sam Peter or another out of shape slugger, his speed would be enough. Could he beat a prime RJJ? No, definitely not.

Roy took flush right hands from ruiz on a few occasions In that fight... if joe took a flush right from sam peter....


uhhhhhh......

[abadger]

He doesn't care about all of that. His story is, Roy tested for steroids once and therefore his whole success during his career is nothing and steroids contibuted to his victory in every fight which is isn't true at all.

As you will see from my previous post, I did in fact both care and read the post.

If the substance Roy took was legal then there's no defensible reason for banning him.

Any boxer who does take a banned substance should be banned in my opinion for life, but at least for two years. You shouldn't be allowed to cheat in a sport as dangerous as boxing.

If Roy did not take a banned substance then his career and achievements are exactly what they appear to be, incredible. If he had taken it, then they wouldn't be.
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[RichCCFC]

I've said on numerous occasions that I think Calzaghe could beat Jones, I don't honestly think that way, it's just to piss off some of his haters. Prime 4 Prime, Jones beats Calzaghe by around 116-112.

I think Calzaghe has still got a chance though, his work rate is his biggest gift, I think he has a better work rate than a Prime Jones even.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Roy took flush right hands from ruiz on a few occasions In that fight... if joe took a flush right from sam peter....


uhhhhhh......

I'm not sure if Peter hits harder than Ruiz, have lost a lot of interest in heavyweights, but Joe's chin is/was/always will be better than Roy's.

[THE REED]

I'm not sure if Peter hits harder than Ruiz, have lost a lot of interest in heavyweights, but Joe's chin is/was/always will be better than Roy's.

then again the only time he ever fought above SMW, he got knocked down, by a 43yr old, who isnt known for his knockouts... sam peter would most likely knock john ruizs head, clean off.. mortal kombat style.

[IMDAZED]

As you will see from my previous post, I did in fact both care and read the post.

If the substance Roy took was legal then there's no defensible reason for banning him.

Any boxer who does take a banned substance should be banned in my opinion for life, but at least for two years. You shouldn't be allowed to cheat in a sport as dangerous as boxing.

If Roy did not take a banned substance then his career and achievements are exactly what they appear to be, incredible. If he had taken it, then they wouldn't be.

He tested positive once. If he didn't test positive again, why would his whole career be diminished. LOL. That's quite backwards. The same test that found him positive one time also found him negative 55 other times.

[sparked_85]

what was the agenda in this thread?

[abadger]

He tested positive once. If he didn't test positive again, why would his whole career be diminished. LOL. That's quite backwards. The same test that found him positive one time also found him negative 55 other times.

Because, if you are found to have a banned substance in your blood (which it transpires Jones did not) then you have been found to be willing to cheat by using banned substances, and presumably you would do so again, perhaps with something a little more undetectable next time. The question mark is always there.

For me testing positive once is enough (I reiterate, the substance Jones took was not banned) to merit a lifetime ban. Doping undermines the entire premise of athletic competition, and in boxing I think is even dangerous.
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[THE REED]

what was the agenda in this thread?

just the people who compare them prime for prime... who say there abilities were equal... i just happen to disagree, and wanted to know if joe could do the same things as roy did.