what if: James Toney vs. Joe Calzaghe @ 168 (Prime for prime)

[Bad_Barracuda]

The fact Calzaghe is white he'd automatically lose this fight.... Get real Toney was no god, he was exposed by Roy Jones Jr.

You're an insecure,unhappy little man.

Joe should have gotten off his white ass and PROVED how good he was in his prime..not sit back and fight WBO-level contenders and talk **** from across the Atlantic..

No guts

No glory

For a guy that calls himself the "GodOFWar" you sure have an odd affinity for that slapping coward Calzhage

[Bad_Barracuda]

A lot of people rate Toney really high, but personally I think Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins in thier primes would all beat him.

Joe is not on the same level as RJJ and a prime Hopkins..

[Horus]

James Toney wins UD...

James Toney is one of the best fighters of his generation...

[RichCCFC]

James Toney wins UD...

James Toney is one of the best fighters of his generation...

Same can be said about Calzaghe.

[Porter's Dad]

Joe Calzaghe UD.

What a shock.

[brooklyn kid]

Toney is far smarter in the ring than Joe could ever dream to be..

He's so slick he'd have Joe walking into all kinds of ****** punches..and HURTING him..

Joe spent his prime in WBO wasteland fighting the likes of Mario Veit and the dreaded Tokker Pudwell..

Toney spent his prime winning REAL Titles against real comp..

If Joe had the goods to beat the likes of Toney he would have done so..there's a REASON he stayed away from the real comp..

Joe is not the bravest of prizefighters.

I know this may seem racist but im going to say it anyway

this is how i feel not saying it is right but its on my mind

Here we go........

i think african americans have more of a fighters instinct and are more

in tune with that instict and are very adaptive when fighting

its called fight or flight if you dont know. and i think african americans

choose fight most of the time and often dont think, just react.


prime example:





I also think that white people tend to think before making such a decision

and understanding that this can do harm to them they choose flight

but when a white person thinks and chooses to fight it is at thier own will

and fully understands that harm can be done therefore they are hesitant

and cannot function at the same capacity as an african american.

prime examples: @ :20



the only down fall is that when you use fight or flight you use energy which

is why african americans are known for stamina problems.

so i would choose toney by KO or joe by UD take your pick

[Steak]

all due respect to Calzaghe, but if a Cruiserweight champion who had defended his title multiple times, hits much harder than Calzaghe, and at the same time matches the workrate of Calzaghe got beat by James Toney, I dont quite understand how Calzaghe could do it. honestly, Jirov even sort of punches like Calzaghe at times, cant you see how theyre alike?


and guys, please wake up. In the title it says PRIME FOR PRIME. that means that
-Joe's hands are healthy
-Toney was motivated for the fight
-Joe was motivated for the fight
-There were no deaths in either's family
-They were not having emotional troubles with family, friends, promoters, etc.
-They were at their BEST. thats what PRIME means...

and this is at 168. Toney was not green like he was against Nunn. Im actually trying to decide if Toney could stop him or not...just because a fighter has never been stopped in their career doesnt mean its impossible to stop them. Toney had a lot of power at the lower weights, enough for him to be able to follow him and work against 190ish lb guys and Calzaghe actually has been open to counter right hands in his career, aka Toney's bread and butter.
but he probebly wouldnt stop Calzaghe.

[~Lucky13~]

Joe wins this one, and rather easily.

[Run]

Toney by easy decision.

Well in fact I think he'd probably smack Calzaghe around and stun him a few times..........but he'd make him look flat out horrible.

That whole straight punches in bunches thing looks hilarious when it's used against a slickster who relies on punching angles.



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[tyson]

I know this may seem racist but im going to say it anyway

this is how i feel not saying it is right but its on my mind

Here we go........

i think african americans have more of a fighters instinct and are more

in tune with that instict and are very adaptive when fighting

its called fight or flight if you dont know. and i think african americans

choose fight most of the time and often dont think, just react.


I also think that white people tend to think before making such a decision

and understanding that this can do harm to them they choose flight

but when a white person thinks and chooses to fight it is at thier own will

and fully understands that harm can be done therefore they are hesitant

and cannot function at the same capacity as an african american.

the only down fall is that when you use fight or flight you use energy which

is why african americans are known for stamina problems.

so i would choose toney by KO or joe by UD take your pick

Do you have anything more on your mind that you would like to add?

This could get real interesting.