Jones Jr.(94-2000) vs. Calzaghe...

[QUISQUEYA]

On any given day this fight could go either way, but I would have to say if Calzaghe doesn't stop him, Jones wins a very close and possibly controversial SD.

The Calzaghe that got dropped on his seat by a 43 year old man? JC lost five rounds to an ancient Hopkins. And was NOT impressive in the seven rounds that I probably gave him.

Roy is an A+ fighter. Cal is an A- fighter.... IMO.

[Jim Jeffries]

The Calzaghe that got dropped on his seat by a 43 year old man? JC lost five rounds to an ancient Hopkins. And was NOT impressive in the seven rounds that I probably gave him.

Roy is an A+ fighter. Cal is an A- fighter.... IMO.

So you think this thread is about a prime Jones vs today's 36 year old Calzaghe?

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Well, was the 'Hopkins/Toney' Roy on steroids?

When do you consider Cal's "prime"? Was he prime for Lacy/bika?

Calzaghe was quite a way past his prime when he fought Lacy. He was probably prime in the Veit, Mitchell and Brewer era, 3 fights I seriously doubt you have seen, yet you still make claims such as "Prime Roy embarrasses prime Joe"

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

The Calzaghe that got dropped on his seat by a 43 year old man? JC lost five rounds to an ancient Hopkins. And was NOT impressive in the seven rounds that I probably gave him.

Roy is an A+ fighter. Cal is an A- fighter.... IMO.

Nobody looks good against Hopkins, and I do believe a "past his prime" Joe landed more shots on Hopkins than a prime Roy? Yes Hopkins was past it when he fought Joe, but his defence wasn't as cute when he fought Roy, so it all evens itself out in the end.

Prime for prime, it's 50-50.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, was the 'Hopkins/Toney' Roy on steroids?

When do you consider Cal's "prime"? Was he prime for Lacy/bika?

The Hopkins fight, where they were both green is pretty meaningless, no he was not prime.

The Toney fight, where James was extremely weight drained, doesn't mean much either.

And yes, I think Jones has been on steroids his entire career.

[Steak]

Calzaghe was quite a way past his prime when he fought Lacy. He was probably prime in the Veit, Mitchell and Brewer era, 3 fights I seriously doubt you have seen, yet you still make claims such as "Prime Roy embarrasses prime Joe"

I have seen the Veit(I and II) and Mitchell fights, and I dont think he was nearly as good in those fights as he was in the Lacy and/or Kessler fights. never had the chance to get to see the Brewer fight.

[DiegoFuego]

Calzaghe spent his "prime" fighting tomato cans. I don't buy the excuse that Calzaghe was "in his prime years ago" because he has never fought anyone good until 2006 and on. He looks good now (not so much his last fight), so now is his prime. What's next? Telling me Naz wasn't in his prime against Barrera? When will Brits wake up and realize you are in your prime when you fight the best? Was Hatton not in his prime against Mayweather? If all these guys weren't in their prime against the top tier competition, then why do you support them for being cowards until they were old men?

[QUISQUEYA]

Nobody looks good against Hopkins, and I do believe a "past his prime" Joe landed more shots on Hopkins than a prime Roy? Yes Hopkins was past it when he fought Joe, but his defence wasn't as cute when he fought Roy, so it all evens itself out in the end.

Prime for prime, it's 50-50.

"landed more shots"...but what KIND of shots?? Calzaghe's slappy/windmill punches had little effect on Hop.

Collazo landed 213 punches on Hatton. Mayweather landed 129.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Calzaghe spent his "prime" fighting tomato cans. I don't buy the excuse that Calzaghe was "in his prime years ago" because he has never fought anyone good until 2006 and on. He looks good now (not so much his last fight), so now is his prime. What's next? Telling me Naz wasn't in his prime against Barrera? When will Brits wake up and realize you are in your prime when you fight the best? Was Hatton not in his prime against Mayweather? If all these guys weren't in their prime against the top tier competition, then why do you support them for being cowards until they were old men?

You're a Hopkins fan, you should already know the answer.

"landed more shots"...but what KIND of shots?? Calzaghe's slappy/windmill punches had little effect on Hop.

Collazo landed 213 punches on Hatton. Mayweather landed 129.

Point scoring and, ultimately, fight winning shots. Cry more please.

[Hagler★]

there was no need for the sound effects in the second vid lol