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Fight coulda gone either way by a point or 2. SD for Joe C was acceptable. But Hopkins not only coulda won but coulda gotten a KO if he went all out when he stunned Calzaghe. He was either tired or too content in his belief of leadin on the cards.
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Calzaghe won easily, get over it...Comment
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he did not win easily at all
Duke McKenzie thought he lost the fight and as a Calzaghe fan u should now how much of a fan Duke is
Mike Tyson thought he lost the fight aswell
look at Calzaghe face at the end of the fight ,hardly the look of a man who has won easy now is it
keep hugging
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I suggest you re watch the fight and remove the **** from your eyes, Duke McKenzie was just caught up in all the hype of the American judges, anyway.. when does he ever score a fight correctly? and Mike Tyson thinks he can give advice to people...he did not win easily at all
Duke McKenzie thought he lost the fight and as a Calzaghe fan u should now how much of a fan Duke is
Mike Tyson thought he lost the fight aswell
look at Calzaghe face at the end of the fight ,hardly the look of a man who has won easynow is it
keep hugging
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I know it was a close fight the only one who needs to wipe the **** from thier eyes is u
Calzaghe & his farther knew it was closeComment
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It was close but Calzaghe won clearly, "easily" wasn't a very good word to use in this case but yeah.. It was very clear who won.Comment
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WRONG. It was because Hopkins has proven he ruins fighters styles and makes them look bad, even RJJ years ago when he didn't do it so well. Multi dimensional? All he had was defence, countering (still weren't able to be great against Joe hence record punches on Hops landed, and Joe not hurt). Then clinching, holding, butting, and time wasting. Hmmmm.
First multi dimensional fighter at such a high class? Two alone; Eubank was his hardest fight, and a a better multi dimensional opponent, for him at a young age. Kessler is 2nd in the SMW Division behind Calzaghe, would be no. 1 if it wasn't for him, and will be soon. If that's not very high class in your view, you need to wash you biased eyes out because your wrong. He was closer to beating Joe early on than Hops was with negativeness, and would beat Hops, which most agree on aswell.
Most inside and outside boxing disagree with you there as well. I think your confusing impatient, with aggression and actually wanting to fight. Whereas Hops ran, Joe wanted to punch, trade, and came out on top. He was patient, didn't get sloppy, and was cautious later on to Hops right hand. He's been patient, and adapted to opponents like this several times, your ignorant to say he's impatient. Hatton maybe, but not Calzaghe.Calzaghe is a good fighter, but he is an impatient fighter, and he's not willing to let the action come to him or play artsy-fartsy. He'd rather dive headfirst. Against a stronger puncher, or a younger fighter - with all his reflexes, with skills equal to Hopkins, that would been deadly. Joe Calzaghe showed us his limits, but he may be the wiser for it. We will find out if he fights again.
Don't read it then dude. It was a massive fight in 2008 and will be continued to be talked about like many big fights, for a long time into the future on a boxing forum, it's natural. Perhaps you don't like talking about it because your guy lost, otherwise I'm sure you'd complain less. If you don't like it, don't read it.Secondly, this subject is getting beat to death, my friend.
[IMG]http://i17.***********.com/albums/b77/Ready4UGoods/CalzagheHopkinspunchreport.jpg[/IMG]I have found all of the shots where Calzaghe made contact, and I could make a little clip of them - but it was still very, very few. He simply was not making contact.
Calzaghe was coming forward yes - but if you aren't LANDING there is nothing anyone can do for you. And Hopkins was scoring, but he was backing up. Those rounds should have been scored even, that is all you can do REALISTICALLY. That's what even rounds are for. People did alot of bull**** improvising in their scoring. They didn't know what they were looking at. It's a ****** situation. It's no wonder there have been soo many problems.
Originally posted by F-R-K-OLast edited by Kris Silver; 04-27-2008, 08:07 AM.Comment
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You are wrong about this Addison. To call the Hopkins we saw against Joe multi-dimensional is just an error. Hopkins had one idea and one idea only: Clinch, try and counter and make the fight scrappy.
Your description of Joe as impatient is perhaps true, but you could also say that he likes to dominate and make the fight a fight, attributes usually praised in a boxer.
Who is this younger, stronger fighter you propose? I don't see anyone better than Kessler in terms of power or skill out there, and we know what happened there.
You are usually a capable and good poster, but I have to say that in Calzaghe's case you do seem to be wilfully blind to the evidence of your eyes. Calzaghe has never been beaten and never been close to being knocked out, he has beaten exactly the type of fighters you describe and has just beaten a man in many people's top 10 p4p.
Maybe he didn't look good to you, but I for one cannot wait to see him get in the ring with RJJ, Tarver, Pavlik or Dawson. When he does, and beats whichever of them he faces, I hope you will finally stop criticising him so much.
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abadger and KrisSilver, thanks for answering the points raised by Addison. I needed to sleep and I was too tired to write any more posts at the time.
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