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  • ElGranLuchador
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    #31
    Originally posted by bsrizpac
    According to CompuBox sure. compubox is a bunch of guys watching the fight. As you can see in the gifs, he's clearly missing a lot.

    most of the ones he's missing to the arms, back of the head, shoulders are counted in that fight. Which is not impressive. But hey if you think scoring pro fights like the Amateurs is cool, then it might be for you.
    fact joe calzaghe dominated bernard hopkins more than any other boxer
    except maybe roy jones jr
    calzaghe supremacy over hopkins its undisputed and undeniable

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      #32
      Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
      fact joe calzaghe dominated bernard hopkins more than any other boxer
      except maybe roy jones jr
      calzaghe supremacy over hopkins its undisputed and undeniable
      He didn't dominate Hopkins at all.

      This fight was almost exactly the same as his fight against winky - ugly fight with lots of clinching. The difference between the two is that Calzaghe threw more punches than winky and hopkins didn't get tired quite as much in the later rounds against winky. Hopkins could have lost that fight too if he did. Either way, he wasn't dominated.

      Calzaghe got the win, which like said is all that matters, but he didn't do it impressively. To say it otherwise is simply kidding yourself.

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        #33
        Originally posted by majestiC
        What an arrogant joke you are, United States suck at team games, most of your so called best athletes have been found to have taken steriods just look at Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery....
        Marion Jones is a woman, noone cares about women athletes. Tim Montgomery, a f'in sprinter. Yeah we suck at team games, like football, baseball, basketball, oh and the olympics, we don't carry the medal count each year. Watch for your self in 2012. Ask David Beckham, he said personally our culture is by far the most sports driven and our facilities second to none.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
          fact joe calzaghe dominated bernard hopkins more than any other boxer
          except maybe roy jones jr
          calzaghe supremacy over hopkins its undisputed and undeniable
          Why debate logic and facts when you can make up **** to suit your own argument. The visual evidence presented is not disputable. You are wrong. There was no domination.

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            #35
            Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
            calzaghe landed more punches on hopkins than any other boxer ever
            now if thats not impressive i dont know what is
            "Against all odds...." Actually he was more that a two to one favorite, bud. All you have to do is make slight contact damnnear anywhere and they count it as landed. Joe hits like Pauli so know it's not impressive.

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              #36
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              According to CompuBox sure. compubox is a bunch of guys watching the fight. As you can see in the gifs, he's clearly missing a lot.

              most of the ones he's missing to the arms, back of the head, shoulders are counted in that fight. Which is not impressive. But hey if you think scoring pro fights like the Amateurs is cool, then it might be for you.
              cosign cosign cosigggggnnnnn

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                #37
                Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
                usa might be superior in some sports but in boxing mexico is far superior
                there are more mexican champions than americans all those mexican americans robert guerrero steven luevano david diaz consider themselves mexicans because they have mexican blood cuz their parents were born in mexico they come to the ring with the mexican flag and talk spanish in their corners
                I love Mexican boxers they fight like warriors. You sound like an idiot the way you ride JC's nuts though.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MizzzouMan
                  cosign cosign cosigggggnnnnn
                  Thanks.

                  I think a lot of people have forgotten how to score boxing.

                  1. CLEAN PUNCHING
                  2. EFFECTIVE Agression
                  3. Ring Generalship

                  The most important point in the pros is the first point. Clean punching which relates to impact of the blow and pain inflicted. While damage is subjective clearly pro boxing must not be score like an Olympic or Amateur match, where any blow no matter the damage has the same impact.

                  The clear proof of this is the concept of the 10-8 round, where if fighter A knocks down fighter B fight B almost always automatically loses that round, unless he can HURT fighter A and maybe get that round to 9-9 or 9-8. Remember that fighter B has to HURT fighter A, if he lands more swatting punches, it doesn't matter.

                  Unfortunately compu box and judges sit ring side and if you Oscar De La hoya your opponent you can often win the fight. This is fine if your opponent is not doing anything. But if he's landing more telling blows on the inside or or damage, even with less punches, you have to take that into consideration.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bsrizpac
                    Thanks.

                    I think a lot of people have forgotten how to score boxing.

                    1. CLEAN PUNCHING
                    2. EFFECTIVE Agression
                    3. Ring Generalship

                    The most important point in the pros is the first point. Clean punching which relates to impact of the blow and pain inflicted. While damage is subjective clearly pro boxing must not be score like an Olympic or Amateur match, where any blow no matter the damage has the same impact.

                    The clear proof of this is the concept of the 10-8 round, where if fighter A knocks down fighter B fight B almost always automatically loses that round, unless he can HURT fighter A and maybe get that round to 9-9 or 9-8. Remember that fighter B has to HURT fighter A, if he lands more swatting punches, it doesn't matter.

                    Unfortunately compu box and judges sit ring side and if you Oscar De La hoya your opponent you can often win the fight. This is fine if your opponent is not doing anything. But if he's landing more telling blows on the inside or or damage, even with less punches, you have to take that into consideration.
                    4. Defense...
                    I thought Calzaghe eeked out a close decision, mainly b/c he out-worked B-hop down the stretch! I agree Compubox is not PERFECT, it's a bunch of guys who are watching the fight just like us, so depending on their angle they might see/not-see a few things. People make it seem like Compubox is the DETERMINING factor when scoring a fight & looking at it in retro-spect!There were PLENTY of shots Joe got credit for that he didn't land...similar to the shots Dawson was throwing on the gloves & shoulders of Johnson a few wks back...

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                    • ElGranLuchador
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bsrizpac
                      Thanks.

                      I think a lot of people have forgotten how to score boxing.

                      1. CLEAN PUNCHING
                      2. EFFECTIVE Agression
                      3. Ring Generalship

                      The most important point in the pros is the first point. Clean punching which relates to impact of the blow and pain inflicted. While damage is subjective clearly pro boxing must not be score like an Olympic or Amateur match, where any blow no matter the damage has the same impact.

                      The clear proof of this is the concept of the 10-8 round, where if fighter A knocks down fighter B fight B almost always automatically loses that round, unless he can HURT fighter A and maybe get that round to 9-9 or 9-8. Remember that fighter B has to HURT fighter A, if he lands more swatting punches, it doesn't matter.

                      Unfortunately compu box and judges sit ring side and if you Oscar De La hoya your opponent you can often win the fight. This is fine if your opponent is not doing anything. But if he's landing more telling blows on the inside or or damage, even with less punches, you have to take that into consideration.

                      that all goes to **** when u land 6 punches per round like hopkins get over it kid calzaghe won he defeated racism u should be happy
                      also calzaghe was the only fighter to ever knock down hopkins with a body punch now if thats not outclassing i dont know what it is

                      ppl complain about joe slaps but what about mayweather or p williams slaps

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