Hopkins didn't have a single active round. There were rounds in which he landed good punches, but he still spent 2:30 of those in a negative posture. As a result he gave even those rounds away
British Joe fan, but he still lost!
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Listen to the blatant HATIN goin on here.. It's ugly.yep.......
hell i can see joe winning 11 rounds to be honest....i gave him 10 though...
teh ususal douchebags who think tehy're gods fo boxing are the ones who scored it for hopkins....dan "i had taylor beating pavlik 6-0 in the first fight" rafael, the "-edison miranda got robbed because there's a possiblity in the world that he won 9 rounds or more against abraham-club" like kevin iole....
i mean this guys are total douches......im expecting the other memebers of the my afvorite always wins like fischer, fernandez, kim had hopkins winning...
Now every Boxing writer is a douchebag.
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That's why they call it effective aggressiveness, and clean and effective punching. You're exaggerating. Purely. 2:30 my ass.Comment
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I've watched both the HBO and Setanta coverage and think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Watch the fight a 2nd time with "ooh watch his countering, he's done more damage" thrown around and in your head, you tend to watch out for it more and miss what the winner did to win. So you've over emphasised and lost the balance of pro's in each fighter, that lead to the decision and wide majority opinion on JOE WINNING.
Threw more, and landed more than the so called accurate and effective counter puncher in Hopkins. Hops pct was lower because he was struggling with Joes pace, and wasn't quick enough to hit him, often enough. The time wasting shows this, he was out of breath.
Disappointed on the thread starters use of words and rationale, like I say I think you've been easily influenced by the arguments on Nard winning too much, from the minority of Hopkins fans even, whom thought he won. Watch again and you'll see why the judges and majority judged Joe the winner increasingly post R4, with Hops progressively the in active loser.Last edited by Kris Silver; 04-21-2008, 07:08 AM.Comment
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JC may have been the one moving forward but IMO with little effect, B-Hop is well known for his counter punch/spoiler style of boxing and I thought this had superior results in relation to the JC slapping frenzy that looked messy and far from accurate, lots of leather thrown with little or no accuracy, it can not be argued that B-Hop was the more accurate and landed the much cleaner shots.
JC pre fight called B-Hop all sorts of ****, yet when he was made to look pedestrian by a so called has been it now becomes one of his toughest fights and B-Hop is a legend!
IMO far too many big fights are falling fowl to bad reffing or poor judging, IMO JC is a lucky boy to have snatched the SD.
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Yes it can, Joe's pct was higher, and on harder shots. I think his speed and flurries you struggle to see how effective or hard they are, but the compubox and judges were clearly clever enough to know, so were most viewers.
Hopkins face rarely ends with marks, so for me that's a lame argument. The flurries of punches to body and head clearly took the wind out of Hopkins, confused and tired him to a decreasing pct, and more holding.Comment

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