Lets get some things straight about Cal/ Hops..CHUMPS.

[C'MONMANG']

Had to come sooner or later. Did Tarver or Trinidad manage to get through to land so much against Hopkins brilliant defence? No.

Did Joe get hit as hard as Bernard hit Tarver and Trinidad, No.

Did Joe land the highest pct against Bernard ever, avoid getting that hurt, and raise the pace into his style, not Bernards, which was effective. Yes.

Was Joe one of the first to really tire Bernard, to the point he could land and confuse Hops more, with Nard holding, tiring and losing? Yes.

Did Joe beat a top 10 p4p, and widley regarded LH no. 1. Yes.

I agree with everything you just said..

Did Hopkins look like CRAP in his last fight with WW? YES...did a lot of people have WW winning that fight, YES?

did Hops, grab and only throw one punch at a time in his VERY LAST FIGHT against WW?

YES, YES, YES, ALL DAY YES..

[Mozza]

good post. he won by out HUSTLING a 43 year old. He didnt win by kickin his ass because Joe got his ass kicked. He won because Hopkins, at that age, couldnt sustain a level attack on an every round basis.

Hopkins used every trick in the book but he still couldn't control Calzaghe and if he hadn't taken an obscene amount of time to recover from the low blow he would probably have been stopped.

[hypeassasian]

Had to come sooner or later. Did Tarver or Trinidad manage to get through to land so much against Hopkins brilliant defence? No.

Did Joe get hit as hard as Bernard hit Tarver and Trinidad, No.

Did Joe land the highest pct against Bernard ever, avoid getting that hurt, and raise the pace into his style, not Bernards, which was effective. Yes.

Was Joe one of the first to really tire Bernard, to the point he could land and confuse Hops more, with Nard holding, tiring and losing? Yes.

Did Joe beat a top 10 p4p, and widley regarded LH no. 1. Yes.

Is Bernard 43 and did he look shot? Yes! Does he need to retire? Yes? Did Joe get through that fight by the skin of his teeth? Yes!

[Addition]

How predictable, using the old man excuse. If Calzaghe had lost yesterday, everyone would be saying he's overrated.

Calzaghe can't win at all.

[My Name Is...]

Hopkins used every trick in the book but he still couldn't control Calzaghe and if he hadn't taken an obscene amount of time to recover from the low blow he would probably have been stopped.

STOPPED
SHUT THE **** UP DUMBASS

STOPPED? dude go swallow some Cal-Jizz because it is obvious you're a nut hugger. You got that Stan?

THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST IGNORANT THING I HAVE EVER READ ON HERE.

[C'MONMANG']

How predictable, using the old man excuse. If Calzaghe had lost yesterday, everyone would be saying he's overrated.

Calzaghe can't win at all.

Ofcourse he can, ITS NOT AN EXCUSE..JOE WON, but it aint the greatest victory in the history of the sport. how is being 43 an excuse?

now he wants RJ???? when they mentioned Pavlik he said RJ..

[Addition]

Ofcourse he can, ITS NOT AN EXCUSE..JOE WON, but it aint the greatest victory in the history of the sport. how is being 43 an excuse?

now he wants RJ???? when they mentioned Pavlik he said RJ..

People are brushing off Calzaghe's victory because of Hopkins age and using it as an excuse to downplay his win.

[C'MONMANG']

People are brushing off Calzaghe's victory because of Hopkins age and using it as an excuse to downplay his win.

JOE WON A ud IN MY BOOK.. shouldnt have been a SD, was CLEARY a UD..

see, not down playing it.. good victory, BUT hops is 43 years old.

[supermandathoe]

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That might be the greatest jpg ever.

[MELLY-MEL...]

A 36 yr old Joe won a majority ud imho. Against a very game, but older Bhop. neither man is prime, obviously bhop is older, and they both did well. Joe won.