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  • Technical_Skill
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    #161
    Addison, i respect your knowledge, mainly because i think you are one of the few people here who can actually score a fight. Whenever i see people reason for a fighter winning simply because he came forward and attempted to land, rather than actually landing, it makes me sick.

    I refused to watch a stream of this fight(streams are crap), and so will not cast judgement until later on.

    However i agree with you that judges and so called fans have gotten pathetically misguided in the discipline of how to score a fight. Its ****ing lazy to not judge a round properly, by that i mean, looking really hard to see which shots actually landed and which didnt, looking to see which shots are meaningful and which shots are not, and scoring for defense as well as offence. Those judge and others who cant do this and need the commentators to let them know when a fighter has been hit, and those who say, "Boxer A didnt land anoy decent punches, but he took steps forward and tried, therefore he deserves the round", make no sense.

    How to score is an issue that really needs to be looked at carefully because i believe it is hurting boxing, its rooting the tactics out of fighters fight plans, there days you dont have to worry about actually LANDING a punch, simply going out there and throwing 100 punches a round with 99 of the missing are enough for a lopsided decision, even if the other guy hits you with 3 clean shots from 5 thrown punches.

    And for the millionth time, punches which land on arms, elbows or gloves, are not scoring punches, clean and effective punches to the target areas are what score imo. I dont look at a fight and ***** out with some **** like

    "Boxer a threw 200 punches and didnt land, Boxer B threw one punch and landed one, but im gonna give the round to boxer A, it doesnt matter if he doesnt land and it doesnt matter that he got hit clean, he tried to land therefore he deserves to win"

    Just an point.

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    • Silencers
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      #162
      Originally posted by Addison
      Hmm..

      Tell me about these "adjustments" you derived so much pleasure from.
      He used more of his jabs, didn't square up his feet, used more head movement etc. down the stretch.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        Addison, i respect your knowledge, mainly because i think you are one of the few people here who can actually score a fight. Whenever i see people reason for a fighter winning simply because he came forward and attempted to land, rather than actually landing, it makes me sick.

        I refused to watch a stream of this fight(streams are crap), and so will not cast judgement until later on.

        However i agree with you that judges and so called fans have gotten pathetically misguided in the discipline of how to score a fight. Its ****ing lazy to not judge a round properly, by that i mean, looking really hard to see which shots actually landed and which didnt, looking to see which shots are meaningful and which shots are not, and scoring for defense as well as offence. Those judge and others who cant do this and need the commentators to let them know when a fighter has been hit, and those who say, "Boxer A didnt land anoy decent punches, but he took steps forward and tried, therefore he deserves the round", make no sense.

        How to score is an issue that really needs to be looked at carefully because i believe it is hurting boxing, its rooting the tactics out of fighters fight plans, there days you dont have to worry about actually LANDING a punch, simply going out there and throwing 100 punches a round with 99 of the missing are enough for a lopsided decision, even if the other guy hits you with 3 clean shots from 5 thrown punches.

        And for the millionth time, punches which land on arms, elbows or gloves, are not scoring punches, clean and effective punches to the target areas are what score imo. I dont look at a fight and ***** out with some **** like

        "Boxer a threw 200 punches and didnt land, Boxer B threw one punch and landed one, but im gonna give the round to boxer A, it doesnt matter if he doesnt land and it doesnt matter that he got hit clean, he tried to land therefore he deserves to win"

        Just an point.
        Honor and a pleasure - truly, a pleasure reading that.

        It should go without saying that you have a clear mastery of the science of fight scoring, and the sport of Boxing. I've seen it consistently demonstrated every time you post. I know you won't be disappointed in me when you get a chance to have a look at this. It's an absolute test case, Tech.

        Respect, comrade .

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          #164
          Originally posted by silencers98
          He used more of his jabs, didn't square up his feet, used more head movement etc. down the stretch.
          Honestly, I saw the guy collapsing in and trying to score any desperate way he could. Wasn't too technical. To say the least..

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            #165
            Originally posted by Addison
            Honestly, I saw the guy collapsing in and trying to score any desperate way he could. Wasn't too technical. To say the least..
            I guess we saw differently, if anyone was getting desperate in the latter stages, it was Hopkins.

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              #166
              Originally posted by silencers98
              I guess we saw differently, if anyone was getting desperate in the latter stages, it was Hopkins.
              Getting winded maybe.

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                #167
                Originally posted by Addison
                Getting winded maybe.
                I thought he was getting a little desperate. Acting up the low punches and trying his own slapping flurry.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by silencers98
                  I thought he was getting a little desperate. Acting up the low punches and trying his own slapping flurry.
                  I don't know about his own slapping flurrie. This is something you guys have come up with in the last few hours.

                  Faking the low blows was pathetic as I've said, but it seems pretty obvious grampa was badly needing, and getting himself some rest. There's actual evidence of that, and he didn't overly indicate to Cortez he was hoping for a point. I'll stick with the rest.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    I don't know about his own slapping flurrie. This is something you guys have come up with in the last few hours.

                    Faking the low blows was pathetic as I've said, but it seems pretty obvious grampa was badly needing, and getting himself some rest. There's actual evidence of that, and he didn't overly indicate to Cortez he was hoping for a point. I'll stick with the rest.
                    He could've been making fun of Calzaghe with the slapping flurry but I think he really wanted a points deduction when he tried to act up the second time.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by silencers98
                      He could've been making fun of Calzaghe with the slapping flurry but I think he really wanted a points deduction when he tried to act up the second time.
                      Ok, then he was. That's up to us now.

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