What Is This? The Amateurs?

[tyson]

And I have seen you, Tys, with my own eyes beat an amateur fighter, under amateur rules, with professional style fighting.. Wait until you see this fight.

I want to cry. How can Hopkins lose to a white boy??

[Addison]

I want to cry. How can Hopkins lose to a white boy??

I'm still trying to come to terms with it!

If it was anyone but a White devil I could handle this..

[j]

addison, i completely agree man. i even paused the fight when typing, etc.

hopkins most definitely landed the cleanest and hardest punches.

were the judges counting punches that landed on the shoulder and back? i mean, i can't see where joe would've been ahead here.

you know, people look to me occasionly to watch a fight or two and tell them what i see. what i saw here was bhop landing effective, hard punches, winning clinches, and calzaghe hitting mostly shoulder and glove.

something is ****ed here.

[j]

I'm still trying to come to terms with it!

If it was anyone but a White devil I could handle this..

what's up with the white devil ****. ahh, humor.

i was going to say......

[Addison]

addison, i completely agree man. i even paused the fight when typing, etc.

hopkins most definitely landed the cleanest and hardest punches.

were the judges counting punches that landed on the shoulder and back? i mean, i can't see where joe would've been ahead here.

you know, people look to me occasionly to watch a fight or two and tell them what i see. what i saw here was bhop landing effective, hard punches, winning clinches, and calzaghe hitting mostly shoulder and glove.

something is ****ed here.

I hear you, j. There's no doubt about it.

[Addison]

what's up with the white devil ****. ahh, humor.

i was going to say......

HaHA.. Actually neither myself nor Calzaghe are White devils.

We are Italian.

[tyson]

There is just no getting away from the fact that judges will be affected by the crowd during a fight.
If a judge fails to see exactly what happens when a fighter throws a flurry, he will hear the crowd going wild and unconsciously assume something landed.

The very technical aspects in boxing are starting to be overlooked and unappreciated by both judges and fans.

It seems like fans today see Hopkins turn nearly sideways away from a punch because of fear from getting hit, when in fact he purposely turns his shoulder to block the punch with the force of his bodyweight.

Sometimes he use techniques like that to smother, other times to hurt the opponent's hand and some times just to block incoming fire.

It takes a highly trained eye to see the difference in those things, and it takes an even higher knowledge of the sport to appreciate such advanced skills.

Unfortunately, flash is easier to see and score than substance.
Which is why fights like this are scored like they are, and also the reason fans think Floyd could beat someone like Duran.

Ancient technique and substance are being replaced by speed and flash.

[Addison]

There is just no getting away from the fact that judges will be affected by the crowd during a fight.
If a judge fails to see exactly what happens when a fighter throws a flurry, he will hear the crowd going wild and unconsciously assume something landed.

The very technical aspects in boxing are starting to be overlooked and unappreciated by both judges and fans.

It seems like fans today see Hopkins turn nearly sideways away from a punch because of fear from getting hit, when in fact he purposely turns his shoulder to block the punch with the force of his bodyweight.

Sometimes he use techniques like that to smother, other times to hurt the opponent's hand and some times just to block incoming fire.

It takes a highly trained eye to see the difference in those things, and it takes an even higher knowledge of the sport to appreciate such advanced skills.

Unfortunately, flash is easier to see and score than substance.
Which is why fights like this are scored like they are, and also the reason fans think Floyd could beat someone like Duran.

Ancient technique and substance are being replaced by speed and flash.

No doubt, I haven't seen a fighter B, with the crowd heavily pulling for fighter A, manage to win in quite a little while.. Not in a really tight one. The crowd is a factor fa sho. Calzaghe was getting thunderous reception from his nationalist ****'s every time he goose-stepped or did the ******* salute..

[pesticid]

If this was the amateurs Hopkins would have lost a point each round for not throwing punches or not willing to engage.

[Addison]

If this was the amateurs Hopkins would have lost a point each round for not throwing punches or not willing to engage.

This isn't the amateurs. That's my point.