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  • #51
    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
    Please keep in mind that one-dimensional does not disqualify a fighter from being good. Kelly Pavlik is one-dimensional. Kelly Pavlik is a good fighter. The truly great elite fighters are the ones who can at least make a fight against their stylistic nightmare a close loss, or even a win.

    If you can't adjust at all effectively when you are losing, you are probably one-dimensional.

    Tarver against Hopkins showed that he was having a bad night, but even on a good night, he is so one-dimensional, being a defensive first 1-2 fighter, that it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.



    Anyone who said Cotto hasn't seen his fights, is a hater or is just a ****ing idiot. That dude has more angles to his game than Mayweather. Cotto can box, brawl, pressure, pretty much everything. I haven't seen anything like it since Marco Antonio Barrera.
    Kelly Pavlik also overcame someone who has the best jab in boxing as well as a dramatic speed advantage. He Did it with Heart, Strength, Determination and grit when Taylor hurt him in the first fight and then took his right hand away in their second fight. Is he still one dimensional?

    Pavlik is not a world beater, nobody is, but he works with what he has and does a damn good job with the tools he got.

    You have to take intangibles into consideration with any fighter. A gifted fighter, without heart, will amount to nothing.

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    • #52
      Manny Pacquiao, Hatton, Wlad

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      • #53
        Originally posted by P4PKING_2008 View Post
        Cotto, Hatton, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Mayorga.

        Calzaghe and Cotto are not one dimensional. Not only can they both bring the fight to their opponents, but they also have good hand speed and boxing ability as well. When you think about a one dimensional fighter, then you want to look at someone along the lines of Tarver, Pacquaio, Mayorga, Kessler, Foreman ect.

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        • #54
          Audley Harrison...
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          Last edited by abadger; 03-20-2011, 11:36 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by P4PKING_2008 View Post
            Cotto, Hatton, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Mayorga.


            You are either really ****** a hater or black not that being black is bad but that list is pathetic and clearly chosen along racial lines.

            Or you could be Don Omega i dunno, ****** anyway.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by deanrw View Post
              Kelly Pavlik also overcame someone who has the best jab in boxing as well as a dramatic speed advantage. He Did it with Heart, Strength, Determination and grit when Taylor hurt him in the first fight and then took his right hand away in their second fight. Is he still one dimensional?

              Pavlik is not a world beater, nobody is, but he works with what he has and does a damn good job with the tools he got.

              You have to take intangibles into consideration with any fighter. A gifted fighter, without heart, will amount to nothing.
              Pavlik overcame Taylor's arsenal with his workrate of 1-2's. Taylor's defense is bad enough to let him do that.

              Once again, keep in mind that one-dimensional does not automatically disqualify a fighter from being a good fighter, or even take them out of the elite category. They will just be in trouble if someone figures out how to counter their plan A.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                Please keep in mind that one-dimensional does not disqualify a fighter from being good. Kelly Pavlik is one-dimensional. Kelly Pavlik is a good fighter. The truly great elite fighters are the ones who can at least make a fight against their stylistic nightmare a close loss, or even a win.

                If you can't adjust at all effectively when you are losing, you are probably one-dimensional.

                Tarver against Hopkins showed that he was having a bad night, but even on a good night, he is so one-dimensional, being a defensive first 1-2 fighter, that it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.



                Anyone who said Cotto hasn't seen his fights, is a hater or is just a ****ing idiot. That dude has more angles to his game than Mayweather. Cotto can box, brawl, pressure, pretty much everything. I haven't seen anything like it since Marco Antonio Barrera.
                Pavlik may be one-dimensional, but his one dimension is friggin deep. I wouldn't put him on the list because he is so excellent at what he does. Samuel Peter is a very limited one-dimensional fighter, but he is a heavyweight so its excusable. Juan Diaz is one dimensional to a fault.

                Anybody that puts Cotto, Pacquaio, or Calzaghe on the list is a bit touched in the head.

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                • #58
                  If John Ruiz is not on one of these lists, there is seriously something diggy going on, savvy?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Addison View Post
                    Jeff Lacy

                    Mikkel Kessler


                    You're really on a mission to discredit Joe, aren't you, Addison?

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                    • #60
                      Kelly Pavlik- slowly come forward, throw either a 1-2, or a 1-1-2. Sometimes a 1-3-2. If knocked backwards bull forward
                      Joe Calzaghe- just move your hand 750-1000 times a fight, look like a 12 round amateur fight

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