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If Joe wins convincingly tonight, should he be P4P #1?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by MightyMikeA View Post
    What do we have to look forward to from Mayweather? Another pointless De La Hoya rematch or him beating up on Junior Welterweights and avoiding all the stiff top comp at 147 like Cotto and Margarito? Should the best P4P fighter on the planet be a guy who seeks easy pay days in the world of fantasy make-believe that is the WWE?

    I say if Joe Calzaghe wins convincingly tonight, he should unequivocably be regarded as the best fighter on the planet based solely on his last few fights and his defeat of a future hall of famer and legend that B-Hop is. What do you guys think?
    its a good possibility, but only if you change your avatar

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    • #12
      Well he's no. 3 now right. So beating p4p no. 5 in Hopkins, he'll rightly be at no. 2. His next fight is bound to be a big one, with Pavlik, RJJ, Tarver or someone, so if he wins that convincingly, I'd say no. 1 spot then would be reasonable. Especially if Floyd fights not another top contendor again.
      Last edited by Kris Silver; 04-19-2008, 09:53 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
        Well he's no. 3 now right. So beating p4p no. 5 in Hopkins, warrants no. 2 spot. His next fight is bound to be a big one, with Pavlik, RJJ, Tarver or someone, so if he wins that convincingly, I'd say no. 1 spot then would be reasonable. Especially if Floyd fights not another top contendor again.

        Tarver is overrated, Hopkins beat him, So in turn he would have 2 beat RJJ or a pavlik.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
          Well he's no. 3 now right. So beating p4p no. 5 in Hopkins, warrants no. 2 spot. His next fight is bound to be a big one, with Pavlik, RJJ, Tarver or someone, so if he wins that convincingly, I'd say no. 1 spot then would be reasonable. Especially if Floyd fights not another top contendor again.
          Really? Can you post me a link to where it says he is no. 3 P4P? Any credible source would do. Cheers

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          • #15
            I think a strong arguement could be made to make him #1 and why not the man has not lost a single fight in his career much like Mayweather, he has 20+ title defenses probably has more than Hopkins has in title defenses and he has also fought all of the top very best super middleweights of his era and beat them unlike Mayweather Jr.
            So I truely think that in a perfect world when joe is done whipping Hopkins ass tonight, in a perfect world justice would be served, But we dont live there no such place exsist, we live in a nuthugger world we live in a place where reality is deluted by illusions where lies become truth where fighting guys like Baldimor, Judah, Gattti, and Sosa make you #1 P4P.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SkilledBoxer View Post
              Tarver is overrated, Hopkins beat him, So in turn he would have 2 beat RJJ or a pavlik.
              Tarver beat Jones too.

              I would like to see Calzaghe face someone young next, Hopkins and RJJ are both old and out of their primes, either Pavlik or Dawson would be a good fight, which I think Calzaghe will win both and get more credit for facing them.

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              • #17
                No, he shouldn't.

                Regardless if he wins every single round, I'd still pick Floyd to whoop his ass if they were the same size.

                That's what P4P is all about.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by MightyMikeA View Post
                  What do we have to look forward to from Mayweather? Another pointless De La Hoya rematch or him beating up on Junior Welterweights and avoiding all the stiff top comp at 147 like Cotto and Margarito? Should the best P4P fighter on the planet be a guy who seeks easy pay days in the world of fantasy make-believe that is the WWE?
                  Mayweather should get no credit for beating 34 year old Oscar , but Calzaghe should get credit for beating 43 year old Hopkins?

                  It doesn't seem consistent.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA View Post
                    Mayweather should get no credit for beating 34 year old Oscar , but Calzaghe should get credit for beating 43 year old Hopkins?

                    It doesn't seem consistent.
                    It seems like fanboys speaking out their arses.

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                    • #20
                      Well Ring has him 5. But here 3;
                      http://www.secondsout.com/rankstat/p4p.cfm

                      Setanta no. 2 spot, thats just 2 links on the 1st page of googling p4p.
                      http://www.setanta.com/en/Sport/News...locale/boxing/

                      Personally I find the ring list a little biased, Hopkins above Calzaghe when Joes never lost, and Hopkins has to Taylor, and arguably Winky Wright.

                      Kessler seems to be underated by Ring, whom many think would KO Hopkins. That's more than reasonable when you consider Joe is favourite against Hopkins, and Kessler gave a tough chinned Joe some trouble in one of his closest fights.

                      Tarver didn't look convincing enough for me against Woods, I think RJJ would edge it against him now, more genuine hunger in the ring, where Tarver is oddly noway near as firey as his gob.

                      Whoever wins between Dawson Tarver if that happens, is big, so that'd be a big win for Joe thereafter. But were in the odd position where its so debatable whose better between them, Johnson, RJJ now.

                      Pavlik is another story, and I think would be a weight challenge for Joe. He looked drained against Kessler, he can't make SMW comfortably any more, esp after being at LH now.
                      Last edited by Kris Silver; 04-19-2008, 10:07 AM.

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