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  • -Swizzy-
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    #1

    Weight classes revamped

    this thread is to share my vision for the weight divisions. I think there are too many unnecessary weight divisions. With just a simple elimination of a couple of divisions, boxing would be alot more competitive and there would be alot more attractive events with multiple great fights for each boxing event. just as the welterweight division is so stacked at the moment, so could be the case for every division if there weren't so many of them. I mean, is the jr mw division really necessary? its a 6 pound difference from the mw division. some fighters gain twice that weight from weigh-ins to fight night. and in some of the smaller divisions, there is like a 3 pound weight difference between weight classes.

    well anyways, below is my vision of how the weight classes should be IMO, and I listed under each weight class some of the fighters and what weight class they might fight in if the format were to be this way. you will find that almost every weight class is stacked the way the welterweight division is right now.

    Heavyweight Unlimited(unchanged)

    ........

    Cruiserweight 200(unchanged)

    ........

    Light Heavyweight 175
    Hopkins
    Calzaghe
    Dawson
    Kessler
    Jones Jr.
    Taylor
    Tarver

    Middleweight 160
    Pavlik
    Wright
    De La Hoya
    Forrest
    Abraham
    Miranda
    Sturm
    Spinks

    Welterweight 147
    Mayweather
    Cotto
    Mosley
    Williams
    Margarito
    Witter
    Malinaggi

    Lightweight 135
    Hatton
    Pacquiao
    JM Marquez
    Barrera
    Guzman
    Valero
    Campbell
    Juan Diaz
    Casamayor

    Featherweight 125
    Vazquez
    R Marquez
    Calderon
    John
    Mijares
    Donaire
    Darchinyan
    Linares
    Last edited by -Swizzy-; 11-22-2008, 11:52 AM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by kswizzy99
    I'm not one of the ppl that thinks boxing is dying but I do think there are many flaws in the boxing world. for ex: promoters, fighters ducking, multiple belts for each weight division..... this thread is to share my vision for the weight divisions. I think there are too many unnecessary weight divisions. I think just with the simple elimination of a couple of divisions, boxing would be alot more competitive and there would be alot more attractive events with multiple great fights for each boxing event. just as the welterweight division is so stacked at the moment, so could be the case for every division if there werent so many of them. I mean, is the jr mw division really necessary? its a 6 pound difference from the mw division. some fighters gain twice that weight from weigh-ins to fight night. and in some of the smaller divisions, there is like a 3 pound weight difference between weight classes.

    well anyways, below is my vision of how the weight classes should be and I listed under each weight class some of the fighters and what weight class they might fight in if the format were to be this way. you will find that almost every weight class is stacked the way the welterweight division is right now.

    Heavyweight Unlimited(unchanged)
    Klitschko
    Peter
    Chagaev

    Cruiserweight 200(unchanged)
    Haye
    Mormeck
    O'Neil

    Light Heavyweight 175
    Hopkins
    Calzaghe
    Dawson
    Kessler
    Jones Jr.
    Taylor
    Tarver

    Middleweight 160
    Pavlik
    Wright
    De La Hoya
    Forrest
    Abraham
    Miranda
    Sturm
    Spinks

    Welterweight 147
    Mayweather
    Cotto
    Mosley
    Williams
    Margarito
    Witter
    Malinaggi

    Lightweight 135
    Hatton
    Pacquiao
    JM Marquez
    Barrera
    Guzman
    Valero
    Campbell
    Juan Diaz
    Casamayor

    Featherweight 125
    Vazquez
    R Marquez
    Calderon
    John
    Mijares
    Donaire
    Linares
    Those are beautiful matchups.

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    • Lazy Liberal
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      #3
      Originally posted by kswizzy99
      I'm not one of the ppl that thinks boxing is dying but I do think there are many flaws in the boxing world. for ex: promoters, fighters ducking, multiple belts for each weight division..... this thread is to share my vision for the weight divisions. I think there are too many unnecessary weight divisions. I think just with the simple elimination of a couple of divisions, boxing would be alot more competitive and there would be alot more attractive events with multiple great fights for each boxing event. just as the welterweight division is so stacked at the moment, so could be the case for every division if there werent so many of them. I mean, is the jr mw division really necessary? its a 6 pound difference from the mw division. some fighters gain twice that weight from weigh-ins to fight night. and in some of the smaller divisions, there is like a 3 pound weight difference between weight classes.

      well anyways, below is my vision of how the weight classes should be and I listed under each weight class some of the fighters and what weight class they might fight in if the format were to be this way. you will find that almost every weight class is stacked the way the welterweight division is right now.

      Heavyweight Unlimited(unchanged)
      Klitschko
      Peter
      Chagaev

      Cruiserweight 200(unchanged)
      Haye
      Mormeck
      O'Neil

      Light Heavyweight 175
      Hopkins
      Calzaghe
      Dawson
      Kessler
      Jones Jr.
      Taylor
      Tarver

      Middleweight 160
      Pavlik
      Wright
      De La Hoya
      Forrest
      Abraham
      Miranda
      Sturm
      Spinks

      Welterweight 147
      Mayweather
      Cotto
      Mosley
      Williams
      Margarito
      Witter
      Malinaggi

      Lightweight 135
      Hatton
      Pacquiao
      JM Marquez
      Barrera
      Guzman
      Valero
      Campbell
      Juan Diaz
      Casamayor

      Featherweight 125
      Vazquez
      R Marquez
      Calderon
      John
      Mijares
      Donaire
      Linares
      Looks good but a lot of the smaller guys would get smoked at 125. Add a 112 division and your divisions look good.

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      • ElGranLuchador
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        #4
        at the contrary i think more weight classes would add the fun
        make a superheavyweight class and a mini minimum weight one

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          #5
          I like the weight classes just the way they are. Just get rid of the multiple champions and bogus mandatory contenders (like Gary Lockett). If you enjoy watching boxing on television you don't want to see fewer weight classes.

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            #6
            Originally posted by DavidValenzuela
            Looks good but a lot of the smaller guys would get smoked at 125. Add a 112 division and your divisions look good.
            well, I already thought about that and I came to the conclusion the fighters in the lower weight classes could handle the 125 pounders. I used Ivan Calderon as the study cuz he fights at 108 and most of his opponents are 5'4,5'5 while he is 5'0 and he is handling them pretty easily. and in the list above I think the tallest fighter at featherweight is vazquez at 5'5. and I am assuming that calderon is eventually gonna fight as high as 126 anyway. I mean if you think about it, pacquaio started his career at 106 and the best part of his career has been at 130 and he is even thinking to move up to 135 and later even 140.

            I think the guys in the lower divisions already don't get enough recognition as it is and separating the competition at that weight isn't really helping. I mean, we could be discussing a possible Vazquez-Calderon matchup but we're not cuz the possiblities of that happening are slim as both fighters are separated from each other by 4 divisions.
            Last edited by -Swizzy-; 04-19-2008, 01:07 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by kswizzy99
              well I already thought about that and I came to the conclusion the fighters in the lower weight classes could handle the 125 pounders. I used Ivan Calderon as the study cuz he fights at 108 and most of his opponents are 5'4,5'5 while he is 5'0 and he is handling them pretty easily. and I am assuming that he is eventually gonna fight as high as 126 anyway. I mean if you think about it, pacquaio started his career at 106 and the best part of his career has been at 130 and he is even thinking to move up to 135 and later even 140.

              I think the guys in the lower divisions already don't get enough recognition as it is and separating the competition at that weight isn't really helping. I mean, we could be discussing a possible Vazquez-Calderon matchup but we're not cuz the possiblities of that happening are slim as both fighters are separated from each other by 4 divisions.

              Are you kidding? Vazquez would squash Calderon like a g****. When you are that small 10 lbs makes a LOT of difference.

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              • Shanus
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                #8
                Say a lightweight can't make the limit anymore, how the hell could he jump 12 lbs off the bat?

                No, I don't think it'd work.. it did before, but not now.

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shanus
                  Say a lightweight can't make the limit anymore, how the hell could he jump 12 lbs off the bat?

                  No, I don't think it'd work.. it did before, but not now.
                  you don't think a lightweight could go from 135 to 147?
                  Para akong foam (I’m like a foam),” said Pacquiao, who checked in at 129 pounds for his rematch against Juan Manuel Marquez. “Mabilis lumiit, mabilis lumaki (I shrink fast, I bulk up fast).

                  With sips of water, spoonfuls of ampalaya with eggs and slices of pears and watermelon, Pacquiao continued the process of bulking his way up to 143-144 pounds for his World Boxing Council super featherweight title bout against Juan Marquez Saturday.
                  a lightweight would have months to gain that weight and any lightweight could do it easily especially if they have a hard time making 135. I think weight issues in the boxing world are looked at with great sensitivity cuz ppl don't like the purity of the sport to be touched, even if it means for the greater good. I doubt very much that any of this would cause much problems. I think at first boxers would complain cuz some of them aren't ranked #1 in their new divsion but after about 2 years or so I think this idea would look great for boxing.

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                  • ElGranLuchador
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Scott9945
                    Are you kidding? Vazquez would squash Calderon like a g****. When you are that small 10 lbs makes a LOT of difference.
                    my thoughs exactly its obvious this guy knows nothing about the lower weight classes
                    arce vs vasquez is a huge missmatch
                    now imagine calderon vs vasquez

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