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I know alot about the lower divisions and I think calderon could handle vazquez(btw you spelt his name wrong so that shows how much you know). but at the most they should add 1 division at 115 if it becomes an issue which it probably will. but I personally think that 125 is the lowest it should go for the good of boxing. I think the top boxers would make alot more money if it were to be this way.
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Ivan Calderon fighting Israel Vasquez or Rafael Marquez?
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dude i misspelled vazquez big deal
i honestly think u had to be ******ed to think vazquez would get beat by calderon
the first time calderon went up 1 weight class he was on the verge of being knocked out by cazares
now think about calderon going up 4 weight classes to fight vasquez
what would vasquez a brawler and a p4p top ten fighter would do to calderon?
it would be legalized murderComment
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Theres some huge mis-matches in there. The jump from Welter to Middleweight is far too big.......any Welters considering to move up would not stand a chance against naturally bigger guys such as Pavlik/Sturm etc....
I think the weight classes are okay as they are, but there is far too many belts. Can you imagine if it was like the old days where the best would actually have to prove it by beating everybody else for the one belt.Comment
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if the jump is too high than its a jump that shouldn't be made. if someone can't stay under the 147 limit than they are too big for that division and will do just fine at 160. guys that are 5'7 to 5'9 can manage staying at welter. guys like williams have a hard time making welter and would be just fine at middle. unless you can name me a welter that is having problems making weight and would be too small for middle.
I agree that there should be only 1 belt for every weight class but that would take a billionaire to just say "f*** it, I'm just gonna buy out all these boxing organizations and merge them". currently too many ppl are making money in each of the boxing organizations from all the royalties and I don't think they would consider merging or disintegrating.Comment
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Reason to the Madness
I'm not trying to be a smart ass about the whole topic but this isn't MMA. Boxing started out with fewer weight classes then eventually moved into what has developed today. There is a reason for all the weight classes and believe me they are all necessary. MMA will eventually have several more classes but that sport just hasn't been around long enough to develop like boxing has. If we think there have been many deaths currently then let boxing take away the weight classes that are currently implemented and watch the death toll raise astronomically within a year. Boxing is a grueling sport to begin with and the weight classes are for everyone’s protection. It should be noted that the size of gloves is also a precaution and glove sizes change in from weight class to weight class. I believe that the system in place right now is not perfect but close to it as possible. Remember as much as we love violence we have to protect our boxers as well. Currently, there are people that are trying to get the government to enable a National Committee where boxing will come up with uniform rules and regulations but also programs such as health plans, retirement packages, and even making boxing a professional sport such as the NFL, MLB, NBA. This is the direction that the sport should be going but promoters and even organized crime prevent these theories to make a way into the sport because of the potential monetary loss on those parties’ behalf. I think the system is flawed but it has worked out this way since anyone can remember and until we have a national committee it will continue to slowly progress. Promoters such as Golden Boy are trying make things happen by Oscar stating that retirement packages would be made available to his boxers and education in order to allow his boxers to invest their gains and not spend their earnings unwisely but how factual is that unknown. Nope guys I think the weight categories should be left intact and more safety for our boxers should be considered.Comment
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That is sort of the point i was trying to make with a previous post. The weight divisions are fine the way they are. Boxers safety is the most important thing to look out for. If a certain boxer struggles to make weight as they are too big, moving up to the next division suggested by the threadmaker would be a risk if they haven't fought at that weight. There would be too much weight to put on....that the boxer would likely loose a skill, whether that be speed or power. Competing with the men who naturally adapt to the division would not be fair.
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Calderon V Vazquez? Please......that's just asking for trouble. I'm not saying Calderon struggles at his weight, but because of his height....theres only so much a man can weigh before losing his skills in the ring.
Sadly, with these money whore organisations running the sport, i do not think we will see the belts reduced to less numbers. Some organisations rankings are so laughable, that some mandatorys end up in huge mis-matches.Comment
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Boxing is fine how it is, if you can't follow weight classes then too bad.
People don't really give a **** about all the weight classes anyways, most casual fans only watch the fights they are told to watch. The mega fights become a buzz at the office/school/work whatever it is, people then tune in.
Sure there are too many title's but back in the day there were other titles also, International Boxing Union (IBU),New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC),The National Boxing Association (NBA),National Sporting Club,California State Boxing Commission. They all had titles but people followed the linear path (man who beat the man) Boxing fans know who the real champ is and we know who the top dogs are, I could care less if John Q ******* can't spend 30 minutes to figure out how things work.Comment
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