Should top British fighters have to go to the states to get recognition???

[FRKO]

Answer to the thread question: no.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

Of course not but a lot of American writers and casters are insanely nationalistic and doubt everything unless seen in the flesh.

Agreed with everything in bold

[abadger]

Basically it depends on whether they crave US recognition.

Take Calzaghe as an example. Many US writers and fans don't think that much of him, they certainly don't see him in the same light as Winky, Hopkins, De la Hoya etc, even though you could argue he is better than them all.

In the UK he is already a legend amongst boxing fans and apparently with his sports personality of the year award, in the mainstream soon too. I think Barry McGuigan said he was possibly the best UK boxer ever.

Calzaghe would and should probably be happy with that. He didn't need to go anywhere. He doesn't need US approval to tell him he's good, thats just what the US thinks.

His current jaunt to America is for the payday mostly, and if he proves anything to the US on the way, well thats just a bonus.
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[MickyHatton]

Unfortunately displays like that from some people, of attitude and child like ignorance is exactly why if anything, the emphasis is coming off the US and boxing matches are increasingly happening elsewhere, more. Argue all you want mate, from your rant you clearly know little of any boxing scene out of the US so your not fit to judge with such bias and ignorance.

Fact is there's loads of variables, there's no musts, there's only opinion. And yours isn't proportionate, balanced, or open at all, it's all one way, which stinks and is offends people esp when you dis credit they're country with clearly zero knowledge outside of what your used to.

Great post Kris, unfortunately it wont get read or if it does it wont register.
The US is a great boxing nation and did for decades dominate the sport but times are changing, more and more Eastern European boxers are coming through and the Western European, South American/Oceanic boxers are starting to have a greater impact across the weight divisions.

Therefore I do think that British fighters should go to the States but the US fighters should also fight outside of the US, especially if this sport is going to grow.

[xzworks]

fight in the US and be recognize all around the world..euro fighter and others can only be seen in youtube,sopcast, etc.. nothing beats US TV.... all cable around the world have access..

[Steak]

well they dont HAVE to...

but it would make them much more well known and more universally accepted...chances are if you come to someone elses country and impress people there, youre going to have more support from them than if you never went and fought there.

I mean, this goes both ways. if an American fighter wants to get some respect in Europe, he ought to go and fight over there, shouldnt he? its all up to the fighter.

for the most part, if you want large recongnition in the eastern hemisphere, you should go fight in Europe. if you want large recongnition in the western hemisphere, you should go fight in America.

If you want to be a 'world champion', then you ought to go travel the world.
People often say that you have to go fight in America to get recongnition, and thats kind of true. If a big fight is made in Las Vegas, then most of the boxing community ends up knowing about it and gets to see it. it wont always be like that in other countries

[Addison]

To get recognition you have to fight the best competition.

[Killa Cam]

'Should top British fighters have to go to the states to get regognition???'

they shouldnt have to, but if they want to be recognized worldwide, yes.

i agree wit Addison, to be recognized, you gotta fight tha best competition...does nfl europe get as much recognition worldwide as the N.F.L....no, its all tha rejects/not tha best competition. do tha basketball leagues in europe, spain, china, etc get as much recognition worldwide as tha N.B.A.? no, its not tha best of tha best, its the b class of tha world.

jus look at how much lenoxs fame shot up leadin up to tha tyson fight....lenox was known, but after that fight he was known worldwide, even tho tyson lost, tyson was still tha main attraction

[HitBattousai]

To get recognition you have to fight the best competition.

Co-sign. Wherever the best competition is, you've got to make it happen to fight them imo. Hopkins is the more recognized fighter overall, and Joe is trying to take his title, so he should come to America to fight him. Like Lacy came to the UK to fight the more established champion in Calzaghe.

But there's also the stigma of hometown/poor ref work playing more of a factor in the UK. There are, to be fair, plenty of sketchy decisions and poor ref work in the US, but there's also a huge difference in the number of big fights comparatively. Most recently, Hatton could have shivved Tsyzu(who was the champ, but came to the UK) in the ring the night they fought with all the stuff he was getting away with, Calzaghe put such a beating on Lacy that the fight should have been stopped by somebody, and Calzaghe also got the benefit(not that he needed it) of a ridiculously fast stoppage against Peter Manfredo.

[Dirt E Gomez]

It has nothing to do w/ countries being better/worse... America is the center of the media world. To get the most recognition you have to fight here. Deciding whether it's fair or any of that is irrelevant. The world isn't equal.

The latter half of this thread is filled w/ comments that aren't ******ed. If you have to look further than that for an answer then you simply can't be helped.