The Problem With Pressure Fighting

[2501]

there are different types of "pressure fighting". you can press your opponent and still "Box" picking your spots and giving them angles to deal with. you can also go the katsidis way and just be overly agressive trying to overwhelm. "Boxing" is so much more than just fighting backwards picking off your opponent's weakness and evading danger by moving away.

[Sin City]

there are different types of "pressure fighting". you can press your opponent and still "Box" picking your spots and giving them angles to deal with. you can also go the katsidis way and just be overly agressive trying to overwhelm. "Boxing" is so much more than just fighting backwards picking off your opponent's weakness and evading danger by moving away.

not to mention the styles have evolved drastically through out the years that there's different shades of each style and a lot of hybrids who incorporate more then one.

[Fox McCloud]

I would say Katsidis is more of a brawler imo.
It all depends on the skill level of the person though not what style they use.
Castillo is a prime example!

I think someone who throws that many punches is considered a pressure fighter, but I guess it all depends on interpretation.

The use of a jab distinguishes pressure fighters from slugger for you, and the use of a jab distinguishes great fighters from sub-standard fighters.

[ElGranLuchador]

I am probably wrong, but it does seem like a dumb idea to fight that way if you don't have to, considering it is difficult to control your opponent's location in the ring.

I have also seldom seen a pressure fighter change their stripes in the middle of a fight they are losing, which makes me think that most pressure fighters do have trouble switching their game plan up if it isn't working.

yep tell that to juan diaz guy has lil power but hes a pressure fighter when he could easily box to an ud
why not box? cuz he is mexican and a warrior

[Fox McCloud]

yep tell that to juan diaz guy has lil power but hes a pressure fighter when he could easily box to an ud
why not box? cuz he is mexican and a warrior

I think you are probably right about Juan Diaz. I just don't get that mentality though. It definately shortens one's career, because they are going to get hit a lot more. But to each his own I guess.

[2501]

I think you are probably right about Juan Diaz. I just don't get that mentality though. It definately shortens one's career, because they are going to get hit a lot more. But to each his own I guess.

some fighters just want money and some want glory. Morales could have easily boxed all the time but he didnt. just depends how you want to be remembered. If Morales boxed his whole career, he wouldnt be who he is today.

[!! Shawn]

It is a well established formula of:

Swarmer > Boxer = Duran > Leonard; Frazier > Ali

Puncher > Swarmer = Hearns > Duran; Foreman > Frazier

Boxer > Puncher = Leonard > Hearns; Ali > Foreman

[ElGranLuchador]

It is a well established formula of:

Swarmer > Boxer = Duran > Leonard; Frazier > Ali

Puncher > Swarmer = Hearns > Duran; Foreman > Frazier

Boxer > Puncher = Leonard > Hearns; Ali > Foreman

margarito is both a puncher and a swarmer
cotto is both a puncher and a boxer
so i dont see how to predict by that formula

[Fox McCloud]

It is a well established formula of:

Swarmer > Boxer = Duran > Leonard; Frazier > Ali

Puncher > Swarmer = Hearns > Duran; Foreman > Frazier

Boxer > Puncher = Leonard > Hearns; Ali > Foreman

There is a bit of a problem with your formula though...

Even though both of the first matches in Swarmer > Boxer did indeed go to Duran and Frazier, by the time the rubber match had ended, the boxer had gone up 2 to 1 over the swarmer.

I think boxers have the hardest time with swarmers, but they do seem to fair better against them than other styles do against their kryptonite counter-style.

[Horus]

yep tell that to juan diaz guy has lil power but hes a pressure fighter when he could easily box to an ud
why not box? cuz he is mexican and a warrior

This reminds me of a thread I wrote awhile back....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153736&page=3

Crazy thread now that i look back on it..