The Problem With Pressure Fighting

[Fox McCloud]

After watching Glen Johnson last night, I decided there are 2 main problems with fighting in a pressure fighting style.

1. You are entirely dependent on pinning your opponent against the ropes. Usually a pressure fighter gets the worst of it in the middle of the ring. If you have a fighter with great footspeed against a pressure fighter, the pressure fighter is likely going to be in some trouble.

2. Lack of adjustments. It seems to me that if the pressure fighter's opponent figures out the timing of his opponent, and starts countering effectively, there doesn't seem to be much that a pressure fighter can do to turn it around. After all, if a pressure fighter could be prolific at another style of fighting, they would likely do it. You get hit less and are not dependent on putting your opponent against the ropes to do your best work.

Does anyone agree with me?

[Sin City]

After watching Glen Johnson last night, I decided there are 2 main problems with fighting in a pressure fighting style.

1. You are entirely dependent on pinning your opponent against the ropes. Usually a pressure fighter gets the worst of it in the middle of the ring. If you have a fighter with great footspeed against a pressure fighter, the pressure fighter is likely going to be in some trouble.

2. Lack of adjustments. It seems to me that if the pressure fighter's opponent figures out the timing of his opponent, and starts countering effectively, there doesn't seem to be much that a pressure fighter can do to turn it around. After all, if a pressure fighter could be prolific at another style of fighting, they would likely do it. You get hit less and are not dependent on putting your opponent against the ropes to do your best work.

Does anyone agree with me?

I'm guessing your one of the cats that thinks that if everyone could box they would.. but your wrong on a couple of levels.
Look up Roberto Duran, guy had mad skills and was great at what he did.
btw a boxers hardest challenge is usually a pressure fighter.

[Horus]

After watching Glen Johnson last night, I decided there are 2 main problems with fighting in a pressure fighting style.

1. You are entirely dependent on pinning your opponent against the ropes. Usually a pressure fighter gets the worst of it in the middle of the ring. If you have a fighter with great footspeed against a pressure fighter, the pressure fighter is likely going to be in some trouble.

2. Lack of adjustments. It seems to me that if the pressure fighter's opponent figures out the timing of his opponent, and starts countering effectively, there doesn't seem to be much that a pressure fighter can do to turn it around. After all, if a pressure fighter could be prolific at another style of fighting, they would likely do it. You get hit less and are not dependent on putting your opponent against the ropes to do your best work.

Does anyone agree with me?

This is why Boxing is a beautiful Sport, because the only way to handle pressuring is to box...

Because anybody can fight and rush in, but those who make you pay for rushing are truly the gifted ones in this sport...

That's what separate great Boxers from good ones....

Because Pressure fighters only can rely on pressure ..That requires very little skill from my point of view... Except you can apply smart pressure in which you cut of the ring and force a fighter to fighter your fight.....

In which i also will admit is a beautiful thing too....

But I love Boxers who can make fighters pay for Rushing in, That's my favorite thing to watch in Boxing..

[Fox McCloud]

I'm guessing your one of the cats that thinks that if everyone could box they would.. but your wrong on a couple of levels.
Look up Roberto Duran, guy had mad skills and was great at what he did.
btw a boxers hardest challenge is usually a pressure fighter.

I am probably wrong, but it does seem like a dumb idea to fight that way if you don't have to, considering it is difficult to control your opponent's location in the ring.

I have also seldom seen a pressure fighter change their stripes in the middle of a fight they are losing, which makes me think that most pressure fighters do have trouble switching their game plan up if it isn't working.

[Bhopreign]

Its hard for pressure fighters because they are reacting most of the time to the boxer going backwards. Basically youre actually in a defensive mode even though youre the one moving forward. In any sport the guy who is reacting is at a disadvantage. In basketball the guy playing defense doesnt know what the offensive guy is going to do and has to react and therefore usually is late in making his decision. Same thing if youre fighting a guy who is constantly moving backwards, its like having a dance partner where youre not the lead.

[Sin City]

This is why Boxing is a beautiful Sport, because the only way to handle pressuring is to box...

Because anybody can fight and rush in, but those who make you pay for rushing are truly the gifted ones in this sport...

That's what separate great Boxers from good ones....

Because Pressure fighters only can rely on pressure ..That requires very little skill from my point of view... Except you can apply smart pressure in which you cut of the ring and force a fighter to fighter your fight.....

In which i also will admit is a beautiful thing too....

But I love Boxers who can make fighters pay for Rushing in, That's my favorite thing to watch in Boxing..

most pressure fighters don't "rush" their way in but jab.. It takes more skill to stay in the pocket and not get hit then it does to box at a distance.
stylistically a boxers worst nightmare is a pressure fighter.
In general though there is exception to the rule but it is known that swarmer/in-fighter/pressure beats boxer

Slugger/brawler beats pressure.

Boxer beats slugger.

If you had ever stepped into a gym you would know that.

[Sin City]

I am probably wrong, but it does seem like a dumb idea to fight that way if you don't have to, considering it is difficult to control your opponent's location in the ring.

I have also seldom seen a pressure fighter change their stripes in the middle of a fight they are losing, which makes me think that most pressure fighters do have trouble switching their game plan up if it isn't working.

Manny Pac, Mike Tyson, Barrera, Duran, Frazier, Armstrong, Dempsey, Marciano..
all in-fighter/pressure fighters whatever you wish to call it.. they know/knew how to make adjustments as well. There is no one style that is better then another.. they all have their pluses and minuses.

[Fox McCloud]

most pressure fighters don't "rush" their way in but jab.. It takes more skill to stay in the pocket and not get hit then it does to box at a distance.
stylistically a boxers worst nightmare is a pressure fighter.
In general though there is exception to the rule but it is known that swarmer/in-fighter/pressure beats boxer

Slugger/brawler beats pressure.

Boxer beats slugger.

If you had ever stepped into a gym you would know that.

If you watch the Showtime tips to win, or whatever the **** they call it, before Castillo-Corrales II, it shows Castillo jab and step forward simultaneously, scoring him a landed punch and getting him to his best place of operation. Castillo is one of the best pressure fighters I can think of that I have ever watched fight.

The pressure fighters who rush in are usually not very good against elite fighters. Michael Katsidis is one of those, and I don't have particularly high hopes for him.

[Horus]

most pressure fighters don't "rush" their way in but jab.. It takes more skill to stay in the pocket and not get hit then it does to box at a distance.
stylistically a boxers worst nightmare is a pressure fighter.
In general though there is exception to the rule but it is known that swarmer/in-fighter/pressure beats boxer

Slugger/brawler beats pressure.

Boxer beats slugger.

If you had ever stepped into a gym you would know that.

First of All i am a gym rat....I 6'0 167 lbs and i only have 8% Body fat...
and every time i fight somebody bigger than me, the first thing they doing is try to rush in because they know if we fight head up, i would have a **** load of advantages....So i understand what pressure can do for you.... If you cant handle it.. Because most people natural reaction is the rush in when they are losing or at a disadvantage skill wise..


"stylistically a boxers worst nightmare is a pressure fighter"

I will agree to some extent because if a boxer doesn't know how to used the ring or how to throw a jab, uppercut, anything that cause that pressure fighter to hesitate.. Then the pressure fighter when break the boxer down...


That's why I love Boxers who can make fighters pay for Rushing in, That's my favorite thing to watch in Boxing..

[Sin City]

If you watch the Showtime tips to win, or whatever the **** they call it, before Castillo-Corrales II, it shows Castillo jab and step forward simultaneously, scoring him a landed punch and getting him to his best place of operation. Castillo is one of the best pressure fighters I can think of that I have ever watched fight.

The pressure fighters who rush in are usually not very good against elite fighters. Michael Katsidis is one of those, and I don't have particularly high hopes for him.

I would say Katsidis is more of a brawler imo.
It all depends on the skill level of the person though not what style they use.
Castillo is a prime example!