Miguel "The Surgeon" Cotto

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  • STEELHEAD
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    #31
    Originally posted by Addison
    Is Cotto just this so called "freak of nature," or are the laws of physics somehow different when he hits people? Why do his punches create lacerations, severe swelling and bruising on the face, and severe and extreme damage to the body - and yet he rarely drops opponents from the individual punches themselves? Why so many guys taking knees, and looking like they have full blown AIDS after he gets done with them, ect?

    ...You've heard what I have to say about the pressurized gloves, the clear as day excessive taping, the crushed tops literally bent over and pointing off at an angle because they're wrapped so tight..

    I'm not saying it's illegal - who cares, it hasn't been a problem.. But is there an association? Or is this all a coincidence?
    never thought about that angle but i'll start to.

    i was thinking that cotto lands his punches from the optimum distance.

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    • RisAri0
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      #32
      its also because Cotto follows through with his punches, he pushes his fist through on impact..and I wouldn't say he swings, because we hardly see him miss wildly if ever.... man would i love to see his offense work against Floyd's defensive shell..

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      • WetSexyLlamaPR
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        #33
        If anyone knows what people can do to manipulate the gloves to make them more effective could you explain it. Sorry for my noobish question but what is skinning, and excessive tape holding the glove in place and what does it exactly do to help the wearer? Interesting stuff that I'd like to know more of.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WetSexyLlamaPR
          If anyone knows what people can do to manipulate the gloves to make them more effective could you explain it. Sorry for my noobish question but what is skinning, and excessive tape holding the glove in place and what does it exactly do to help the wearer? Interesting stuff that I'd like to know more of.
          Skinning is where you pull the skin on the glove tight, and tape it tight around the wrist so it cant go back. It compresses the padding on the knuckles, but it also makes it harder to close your hand and make a fist. From my experience, the skinning doesn't last very long. Like everything that starts tight, it gets lose quite fast.

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            #35
            Originally posted by WetSexyLlamaPR
            I don't know some people were and still are saying that Tito had illegal wraps that caused him to have these vicious 1 punch knockdowns. Now it's being suggested that Cotto's wraps are causing him to mess up peoples faces. Just look at him, he's a strong, strong mofo. He's never had 1 punch KO power like Tito.
            He's clearly strong, and well skilled.. I wish they would stop doing this. I was very disappointed to see his left glove when he said his traditional prayer upon entry to the ring last night.. You could barely read the Cleto Reyes label it was so covered in layers of tape.. I winced every time he hit Gomez with his jab and left hook - and sure enough Alfonso's face was ****ed up in no time. From some jabs? In like 2 rounds?? I know dude is a strong, good hitter - but this sport has, and has had, plenty of good strong hitters and these kinds of results are bizarre.

            I won't lie, this subject makes me, and I'm sure everyone else extremely uncomfortable... Cotto is a great talent, no need for this **** if that what's going on. Sincerely, I hope I'm wrong about this.
            Last edited by Addison; 04-14-2008, 01:22 AM.

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              #36
              How long do the fighters/trainers have to possibly manipulate the gloves?

              Cause it would take a while to skin a modern day glove? No? I mean to wear down the foam over the knuckles would take pressure and repeated working.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Addison
                He's clearly strong, and well skilled.. I wish they would stop doing this. I was very disappointed to his left glove when he said his traditional prayer upon entry to the ring last night.. You could barely read the Cleto Reyes label it was so covered in layers of tape.. I winced every time he hit Gomez with his jab and left hook - and sure enough Alfonso's face was ****ed up in no time. From some jabs? In like 2 rounds?? I know dude is a strong, good hitter - but this sport has, and has had, plenty of good strong hitters and these kinds of results are bizarre.

                I won't lie, this subject makes me, and I'm sure everyone else extremely uncomfortable... Cotto is a great talent, no need for this **** if that what's going on. Sincerely, I hope I'm wrong about this.
                There is nothing wrong with skinning. I feel it gives him a psychological advantage as opposed to an actual advantage.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by crazylegs77
                  How long do the fighters/trainers have to possibly manipulate the gloves?

                  Cause it would take a while to skin a modern day glove? No? I mean to wear down the foam over the knuckles would take pressure and repeated working.
                  You people dont understand skinning. Its just pulling the glove tight. Its not wearing down the foam, its just pulling the glove as tight as possible, and securing the glove in a way that at stays the way. It has nothing to do with wearing down the padding.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    Cotto has dropped many of his opponents from single shots to the head. He hasn't knocked them all clean out with one punch, but that's many fighters.

                    Torres and Pinto both went down from single counter shots to the head. I believe Sosa went down from a single uppercut in their fight (maybe at the end of a combination though).

                    Paulie did as well. This is without referencing his early career.
                    I hear that, definately. I hope there's nothing to it, honestly..

                    That's still a very small minority, and the damage that all his opponents have.. This AIDS stuff is ****in weird.. Why him? No correlation at all? You know? Common sense tells me they ain't puttin all that tape on for show.. These guys are getting crushed with something hard. Dense.

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                      #40
                      They skin the glove as much as legally possible, but it's not like a lot of fighters arent taped the same way.

                      You can try to make it controversial, but it's not. If it were a problem, people would have complained.

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