Hopkins Brushes Off Calzaghe's Workrate

[FRKO]

Does anybody know what happens when you throw too many punches against a veteran counter puncher?

Any takers?

Depends who throws the punches. If it's someone very quick and effective with a granite chin, your veteran counter puncher gets owned.

[scap]

Exactly! Let's see Calz workrate after hets gets hit with a few hard counters. That in itself will make him rethink his game plan of trying to outwork/outpunch Hopkins.

Just like the monster uppercuts that Kessler smacked Joe with...those seemed to really unravel Joe's gameplan.

Im sure he will get smacked with a some counter rights but Im also sure he will adjust.

[Knicksman20]

Mate, the guy has been boxing for over twenty years, he knows that it involves getting hit so.....


I'm sick of these threads, and cant wait until its over.

So has Hopkins so? There have been plenty of fighters that fight aggressive like Calz but after a few hard counters they become gunshy. Calz has never had to deal with someone as skilled as Hopkins with countering punching. The closest person to that was Robin Reid & that fight was very close.

[The Mirror Man]

Joe might aswell call this a tune up match because this old man who thinks he can still box is gonna think there three joe calzaghes in there with him

p.s watch out for the head butt joe thats all he knows how to do the last three oppenents have all be cut bye this so called legend

and i would bet on this thing but i dont know how lol

[Knicksman20]

Just like the monster uppercuts that Kessler smacked Joe with...those seemed to really unravel Joe's gameplan.

Im sure he will get smacked with a some counter rights but Im also sure he will adjust.

Kessler landed two/three good uppercuts that whole fight. And the difference between Kessler & Hopkins is that Hopkins can adjust him gameplan. Kessler never had a plan B in their fight so comparing them is very silly.

[Mr. Philadel]

I'm not overly impressed with the workrate argument myself, and that's all you hear - but it isn't something I ignore either. The thing about Calzaghe's workrate though is that he jumps in.. He rushes in like a Kamikaze with alot of that and just windmills away when he's breaking serve.. That isn't going to work on Hopkins for more than a couple of series at most.

Calzaghe hits pretty good, but he's going to pay when he does that. Joe don't hit quite good enough to stop Hopkins from moving, and while Calzaghe is quick he's not nescessarily explosive.

Joe doesn't have the inclination always to be clever about how he goes in. Like I've been saying since 2 minutes after the Kessler fight here on this forum when Calzaghe mania exploded; Joe Calzaghe makes too many mistakes to beat Bernard Hopkins, and I'm sticking to it. Joe's secret weapons are naked aggression and a tremendous chin. His chin is what worries me.. You have to honestly fear Joe could walk through every mistake. His chin is that solid even though he's been down in the past..

Calzaghe advocates talk about the Taylor fights, but Joe doesn't do it like that. He's different, and he's also getting older and slowing down himself. To me he looked gaunt, weak, and weathered at different points during the Kessler fight. Of course Kessler helped create that reflection, no doubt.. But it was there. Could that have been weight or some mistake? We'll see.

Footwork is going to be a killer.

Finally! I wish most of the forum wakes up! Good post fam! You earned some green!

[SnoopySmurf]

If Hopkin's performance vs Jermaine Taylos is any indication, I'm going to say Joe Calzaghe will win this fight.

Granted, I love boxing. But I can't stand to watch Hopkins fight. He bores me. But I will watch this one coz of his opponent - Joe Calzaghe.

[FRKO]

So has Hopkins so? There have been plenty of fighters that fight aggressive like Calz but after a few hard counters they become gunshy. Calz has never had to deal with someone as skilled as Hopkins with countering punching. The closest person to that was Robin Reid & that fight was very close.

Calzaghe won't necessarily fight aggressively, he adjusts to the boxer in front of him. What's funny is people think Joe is just gonna fly in there head first, Hatton-esque, like a bumbling idiot. Fact is, Joe knows how to win fights, much more so than the people on this forum who see everything only in black and white. Why is everything so cut and dried with you lot? This is boxing. Anything can happen. One punch can change everything. Hopkins hasn't seen anything like Calzaghe since he fought Jones in 1993. 15 years ago, when he was severely outclassed by a superman.

By the way, Knickman20, you do realize that, during the fight with Reid, Joe was suffering with an elbow injury and recovering from food poisoning? He still won at least 7-5.

[scap]

Kessler landed two/three good uppercuts that whole fight. And the difference between Kessler & Hopkins is that Hopkins can adjust him gameplan. Kessler never had a plan B in their fight so comparing them is very silly.

1) I was not comparing the two as fighters.

2) You mentioned how getting hit with a few counter rights would deter Joe...I simply stated that Joe was hit with at least 3 monster uppercuts that clearly stunned him (all in one round I might add) and he was able to adjust.

Give me an example of Bernard adjusting his gameplan...did he do so against Jones? How about Taylor-he had 24 rounds to do so with the young kid who had never even really fought a MW to that point?

I am a very silly boy you are correct but it is gonna be a diffferent tye of fight for the old man and to think Joe will fight like a Tarver, or a Wright or an Oscar or a Tito is almost as silly...not as silly but almost right...wrong, yes...no.

[Kris Silver]

Might be another fight, but wasn't Joe ill and/or a hand injured around time of before Robin Reid?

Also, comparing fighters is never 100% accurate of course, but it's not very silly. Kessler countered well a few times, with powerful upper cuts in particular, that Joe managed to handle.

Hopkins is maybe as powerful (doubtful imo), so with the better skills in countering, your hoping on 5+ of those as powerful, to trouble Joe. Rarely do you see Joe get caught out by the same thing in a fight, more than twice, he's clever and adjusts. He'll get caught by hard counters 4/5 times at most, and by Joes history of hard shots, I don't see less than 5 being any problem.