FACTS ONLY THREAD(NO FACTS NO CHAT) If u only have Arugments w/o FACTs, DONT ENTER..!

[Horus]

Fact: there is only one Mayweather thread on the front page of the forum right now.
Why? A Mayweather fan boy posted the thread.
If the fanboys wouldn't keep posting threads about him.. there wouldn't be so many!

Floyd Threads on Board Right Now By Known Floyd Critic's:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174479

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174476

FACt

[2501]

ayo, id smash that Nat chick. something bout that beesh gets me going son.

[Sin City]

Floyd Threads on Board Right Now By Known Floyd Critic's:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174479

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174476

FACt

dang.. 2501 is schoolin you with his thread

anyway.. those weren't up a minute ago until you posted yours.

[J_CON]

Ray Robinson is the best ever!

[Horus]

People who voted in 2501 thread, are voting base off of Misconceptions that they have come to believe without even being introduce to the facts...

Thats why you dont see them in here supporting their Arguments with Facts,Numbers, or History..

Most of those people are just Passionately Uninformed...or have a inherent bias against Floyd..

[squealpiggy]

FACT: In my opinion that's all baloney.

[borikua]

FACTS ONLY THREAD...!!! (NO FACTS NO CHAT) If u only have Arugments w/o FACTs, LEAVE..!

Present a Argument with Facts which you have argued but never gotten a Fact Based Answer...

I have thousands of Arguments I can make with Facts supporting them, but I will start this Thread off with this Argument.and you guys can proved me wrong with your own facts, and Argument..!


Here Is My First FACT Argument:

Let's Clear Some Misconceptions up About Floyd that have seem to gotten some Life:

1. Some People say Floyd Opponents are Selling these P.P.V...? (Myth)

Facts:

Every Floyd P.P.V Opponent except Oscar Had never been in P.P.V fight before in the U.S, before they fought Floyd..!

So if they have never Headline a P.P.V fight in the united states before they Fought Mayweather how are they the draw...?? Where is the Edivence...??

If they were the Draw coming into the fight would that draw status gotten them into Headling a P.P.V on their Own..?

Let's take the Gatti Fight For Example:

1. Gatti = Never had a P.P.V before or After Mayweather

This is the same Gatti who had 3 epic Fights with Mickey Ward (After Fighting Oscar) one in which was (Fight of the Year)

And Not one of them was on P.P.V


This is the same Gatti that Fought De la Hoya(In the begining of Oscar's Prime). In A fight which wasnt even on P.P.V..!!


and that was The De la Hoya who was now a P.P.V star. that just came off a P.P.V's

Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys
Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys
Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys
Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys
Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys
Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys
Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys
Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys

You Mean to tell me Artro Gatti wasnt popular enough to even get a P.P.V with the Most Popular Fighter in boxing ( Oscar De la Hoya)..??
after Oscar have became the face of boxing...!!

You mean to tell me that Wilfredo Rivera,Rafael Ruelas,Genaro Hernandez,Ike Quartey,Miguel Angel Gonzalez, all had enough drawing power to make their Fight with Oscar a P.P.V fight but Gatti Didnt...??

You dont see the problem, Gatti was and is, and alway been the Greatest Club Fighter of all time, but he didnt have the Appeal outside the club(New Jersey). He was not a P.P.V headline fighter before or After the Floyd Fight. For a Reason, it is because he is a New Jersey Local. Not saying he only fights in New Jersey, but his big fights are only in New Jersey. and the Only big fight he didnt have in New Jersey was against Oscar and you see he didnt have big draw in Vegas to even get the fight on P.P.V


So how was he the headliner for the Floyd Fight
When Floyd was more Accomplish, higher rank, and had been in bigger fights.


If you cant get on P.P.V in one of the 3 epic fights with Micky Ward, one in which was (Fight of the Year) then you should know what your drawing power really is.


He wasnt Even a big enough Draw to get P.P.V with the P.P.V King, but now he was the reason why the fight between Him vs. PBF was the success it was..?? WTF

Gatti never once proved before or after that he had the drawing power to pull in a P.P.V audience.. But when he fights Floyd "He was the P.P.V draw" - WTF

Gatti only draw come from the people in New Jersey who came to see him fight Floyd, everybody outside of New Jersey bought the Fight to see Floyd fight. Because they wanted to see him fight, but this time they had to pay.


The truth of the matter is that was both of their 1st P.P.V in which the focus was that Gatti was Fighting Mayweather..Not Mayweather fighting Gatti..

The fact of the matter is that Bob Arum knew that Gatti would be the perfect opponent for Floyd to showcase his skills to make him more Exciting Against a popular Club Fighter...On his First P.P.V to make people buy the Second P.P.V.....

and in FACT this is what HAPPEN..!!!

Floyd vs. Gatti =360,000 buys 1St P.P.V
Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys 2nd P.P.V

Gatti was Floyd's stepping Stone into P.P.V

just like Judah was Cotto stepping stone to P.P.V

people bought that fight

to see Gatti fight Mayweather....


Just like people bought the Cotto-Judah Fight
Too see Judah fight Cotto

thats the difference

if you dont argee then you must say that Judah was the draw in the
Judah vs. Cotto Fight..!!

and

Make a argument with facts that Gatti was the focus of the Mayweather fight..

PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST OR DONT POST AT ALL AND LEAVE THE THREAD....

Ohh shut the **** up already...

[borikua]

[Sin City]

People who voted in 2501 thread, are voting base off of Misconceptions that they have come to believe without even being introduce to the facts...

They why you dont see them in here supporting their Arguments with Facts,Numbers, or History..

Most of those people are just Passionately Uninformed...or have a inherent bias against Floyd..

so you are saying everyone in that thread doesn't know what they are talking about including the intelligent posters?

anyway.. do you agree if I can get cmonmang to stop posting about Cotto for a week you will do the same with Mayweather?

I seriously have never heard your opinion on anything else but him.. makes me wonder if you watch boxing or just mayweather..
I wanna hear what you have to say about other fighters and fights..

[Ironside]

Fact: Mayweather said he wants to retire, and wants to become a promoter.
Fact: When asked about Cotto, he said he wants to retire.
Fact: He's fighting ODLH.