Roy Jones vs Edison Miranda

[THE REED]

Roy would outbox the **** outta Pantera but he ain't as elusive as he used to be so you can't expect him to go all night without gettin hit flush anymore. Add to that the fact that Roy holds his left low, eventually Miranda would land an overhand right and knock his lights out. Miranda KO.

Nah I disagree... If youve watched Roys last 2 fights, you would see how hes completely changed his center of the ring style... Hands up winky style... a COUPLE TIME, and i mean a FEW he lets his left go down, but he always looks ready to pull them back up...

He no longer relies on his footwork and lateral reflexes to duck punches... hes using the winky type defense, where he can see the punches coming, block them, and counter with his hand speed advantage.

Your talking about a slower Roy Jones, but with a more effective style at this stage of the game...


People are too stuck on the 2004 Jones jr. and how hes slower now.. yes hes slower, but hes not relying on that footspeed to move around the ring so much anymore... your looking at a different style now... someone whose gonna walk towards you, guard up, and has unbelievable hand speed countering ability.

[-Swizzy-]

Jones could win this by outboxing Miranda but Miranda is a very powerful puncher and Jones isn't all that fast on his feet anymore, if Miranda lands one of his big power punches, it would lights out for Jones.

did you watch jones' last fight? if not get to it. he doesn't need his fast feet. he has his new winky wright glove defense. and don't tell me you think miranda is better than trinidad. even though he didn't fight for awhile, I still say the trini that was in the ring with jones has more skill than miranda and he might not have miranda's power, but he still has the power to ko so if he couldn't land the punch to ko jones, neither will miranda.

[Crazylegs77]

Nah I disagree... If youve watched Roys last 2 fights, you would see how hes completely changed his center of the ring style... Hands up winky style... a COUPLE TIME, and i mean a FEW he lets his left go down, but he always looks ready to pull them back up...

He no longer relies on his footwork and lateral reflexes to duck punches... hes using the winky type defense, where he can see the punches coming, block them, and counter with his hand speed advantage.

Your talking about a slower Roy Jones, but with a more effective style at this stage of the game...


People are too stuck on the 2004 Jones jr. and how hes slower now.. yes hes slower, but hes not relying on that footspeed to move around the ring so much anymore... your looking at a different style now... someone whose gonna walk towards you, guard up, and has unbelievable hand speed countering ability.

Yeah not to mention Miranda not sucha straight puncher he wings his shots mostly, but he has been improving.

[-Swizzy-]

If Miranda landed a power punch on ANYONEs chin it could very well be lights out, for ANYONE... not just Roy.. so that goes without saying.. This may sound slightly ridiculous to some in light of his two knockout losses 4 years ago... but his chin is unbelievably underrated...

People really think if he gets hit at all on the face he will knock over like a piece of paper in the wind... its just simply not true...

Roys definitely switched his style up... from not hangin his chin out, to a winky type defense, that allows him to see the punches coming in but still block them, and use his hand speed to counter in between your shots...

Although this Roy is a completely different Roy than 10 years ago, the speed has gone down hill, but the tecnique has changed to make up for it in my opinion, and I give him a lot of respect for being able to do that, at this stage of his game.

did you watch jones' last fight? if not get to it. he doesn't need his fast feet. he has his new winky wright glove defense. and don't tell me you think miranda is better than trinidad. even though he didn't fight for awhile, I still say the trini that was in the ring with jones has more skill than miranda and he might not have miranda's power, but he still has the power to ko so if he couldn't land the punch to ko jones, neither will miranda.

great minds think alike

[Biggus Dickus]

did you watch jones' last fight? if not get to it. he doesn't need his fast feet. he has his new winky wright glove defense. and don't tell me you think miranda is better than trinidad. even though he didn't fight for awhile, I still say the trini that was in the ring with jones has more skill than miranda and he might not have miranda's power, but he still has the power to ko so if he couldn't land the punch to ko jones, neither will miranda.

Good post. I'd most likely pick Trinidad over Miranda as well. He showed surprisingly good head movement in the Jones fight.

[Silencers]

did you watch jones' last fight? if not get to it. he doesn't need his fast feet. he has his new winky wright glove defense. and don't tell me you think miranda is better than trinidad. even though he didn't fight for awhile, I still say the trini that was in the ring with jones has more skill than miranda and he might not have miranda's power, but he still has the power to ko so if he couldn't land the punch to ko jones, neither will miranda.

I watched the Trinidad fight and what alarmed me was that a guy like Trinidad managed to push Jones back to the ropes, Winky defense or not, if a guy like Trinidad could push him back to the ropes, I have no doubt Miranda could do it and could put some hurt on Jones when he's on the ropes. Jones relied on foot speed a lot.

And Jones didn't really use the Winky defense in the Hanshaw fight, he fought off the ropes most of the time and Hanshaw landed some good stuff on the ropes.

[THE REED]

I think trinidad looked awesome... i just think roy looked even better, better than anyone expected including myself... take into the account hes 39 and has been knocked out twice...


hes 39!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scott9945]

did you watch jones' last fight? if not get to it. he doesn't need his fast feet. he has his new winky wright glove defense. and don't tell me you think miranda is better than trinidad. even though he didn't fight for awhile, I still say the trini that was in the ring with jones has more skill than miranda and he might not have miranda's power, but he still has the power to ko so if he couldn't land the punch to ko jones, neither will miranda.

In 2008, Miranda is considerably better than Trinidad. Tito came into that fight old, soft, and off a long layoff. Miranda would be an entirely different kind of animal, and is naturally a much bigger man than Trinidad.

[THE REED]

I watched the Trinidad fight and what alarmed me was that a guy like Trinidad managed to push Jones back to the ropes, Winky defense or not, if a guy like Trinidad could push him back to the ropes, I have no doubt Miranda could do it and could put some hurt on Jones when he's on the ropes. Jones relied on foot speed a lot.

And Jones didn't really use the Winky defense in the Hanshaw fight, he fought off the ropes most of the time and Hanshaw landed some good stuff on the ropes.

It just looks to me its more Roys choice to go to the ropes... he looks completely fine and comfortable to goto the ropes, let his opponent get off and work in between the shots.. it looks like hes been practicing it a lot...

Yeah hanshaw pressed forward, but Roy looked comfortable in the hanshaw fight... and the one time hanshaw actually landed a solid right hand, it literally looked like it pissed roy off and he knocked him down 5 seconds later with a sick combination

You have to remember, his idol was Ali... That might be good or bad, but I still think its his choice to goto the ropes.

[Crazylegs77]

It just looks to me its more Roys choice to go to the ropes... he looks completely fine and comfortable to goto the ropes, let his opponent get off and work in between the shots.. it looks like hes been practicing it a lot...

Yeah hanshaw pressed forward, but Roy looked comfortable in the hanshaw fight... and the one time hanshaw actually landed a solid right hand, it literally looked like it pissed roy off and he knocked him down 5 seconds later with a sick combination

You have to remember, his idol was Ali... That might be good or bad, but I still think its his choice to goto the ropes.

Also didnt Jones land the double uppercut off the ropes that led to Hanshaw going down?

Still it worries me when he goes to the ropes and lets his opponents attack.