The Chad Dawson Dilemma

[warp1432]

Except a lot of members were saying Hatton and De La Hoya were going to KO Floyd. Just because he was a 2-1 favorite (against Hatton. I think he was against De La Hoya too) doesn't mean people picked him to lose.

Though I agree with the Zab Judah thing. I think people gave Cotto a lot more credit when he beat him, but now that he has Shane on his list, Zab is a thing of the past. It's kinda like "Tarver was always overrated" Everyone here says this, but yet he only has like 1 fan on here.

(Tarver isn't overrated by the way)

[FLY TY]

can you point out these people and quote them? judah is a hard fight for anyone. i give Floyd credit for outpointing him, but I give Cotto props for destroying him. Zudah still my nieggggga.

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that cotto fight was competitive till about the 6th or so.........after the first 4 rounds, floyd didn't outpoint judah, he began to beat the **** outta him and was on his way to stopping him. judah's mistake is he tried to go "toe to toe" with cotto, floyd frustrated judah b/c after he figured him out, judah really had no offense at all. it wasn't as exiting as the cotto fight, cuz in the end, it turned out to be only 1 man fighting................

[Addison]

Lol no way, the PTA was on my ass for that one. You are e-rich again, do tell.

I'm the manager of the points thread. It's all an illusion.

[warp1432]

@ Antonim

General Consessus for the Collazo fight was that he was a tall slick southpaw which gave Ricky problems and Ricky had the flu/only a couple weeks to get to 147. Ricky against Mayweather had a lot more time to prepare and get used to 147. Floyd was just better (which is why there should be no rematch) And No name? That no name got dominated to make Shane Mosley a credible oppnenot at 147 again. That same Shane Mosley that lost to Miguel Cotto.

And Ricky was 43-0 had a great win over Kostya Tszyu (which means a lot more then Zab Judah) and other good contenders. He was supposed to bring a deadly body attack and his pressure was going to get to Mayweather. Even if Mayweather was the 2-1 Mayweather was supposed to struggle with Ricky. They also had unfinished business at Jr.Welter in my opinion so it's good Ricky moved up.

That and they were both undefeated and top pound for pound fighters. Ricky was 8 and Mayweather was 1. If he had beaten Mosley insted he would have been another "old" fighter just like De La Hoya is considered (which I agree with. Just because he isn't in his prime doesn't mean he's not great). Cotto got some critism for this, but Mayweather would have gotten much more.

Cotto would have been "too green" because his best win was against Zab Judah, a fighter who Mayweather beat handily too. It's better that Cotto established himself now. Besides Ricky and Mayweather and Cotto Mosley were both great fights. I wouldn't have rather seen a different outcome.


Well maybe Shane beating Cotto because Mayweather would have fought Shane for sure (he's with Golden Boy, not because he's "scared" of Cotto), but it was still a good fight and Cotto's a great fighter.

[2501]

If he had beaten Mosley insted he would have been another "old" fighter just like De La Hoya is considered (which I agree with. Just because he isn't in his prime doesn't mean he's not great)

You mean the way some mayweather fans here discredit Cotto's win over Mosley ? plus, it would be ****** for anyone to say that given Mosley's performances in recent years compared to DLH.

[warp1432]

Cotto got some critism for this, but Mayweather would have gotten much more.

You mean like I say in the post above.

plus, it would be ****** for anyone to say that given Mosley's performances in recent years compared to DLH.

Well people do. De La Hoya was coming off a devastating knockout win of Mayorga. Ricky knocked out Jose Luis Castillo in 4 rounds (even if Jose Luis was incredibly shot, Ricky had a really good gameplan).

It's not just Floyd who gets this, but because he's the top fighter in the sport he's subective to more criticsim.

[FLY TY]

wins over judah and mosely are "good" wins, but it means more to lose to one of them than to beat one of them at this point. this is why i like the fight btw the two. the winner can be a stepping stone for paul williams after he beats quintana, the loser can retire.........

[2501]

wins over judah and mosely are "good" wins, but it means more to lose to one of them than to beat one of them at this point. this is why i like the fight btw the two. the winner can be a stepping stone for paul williams after he beats quintana, the loser can retire.........

would BHOP happen to be one of your favorite fighters by any chance?

[FLY TY]

would BHOP happen to be one of your favorite fighters by any chance?

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how did u kno???

tie btw him and mayweather!!!

[Crazylegs77]

Chads average opponent has 14 wins 6 losses so I highly doubt anyone especially top elite guys fear Chad in the least. Chad is unproven his best opponent was Adamek.