The Chad Dawson Dilemma

[FLY TY]

Why does De La Hoya mean more than Mosley (other than money value)? Mosley beat De La Hoya twice and was Mayweather's mandatory at the time. De La Hoya is old. He is far from his prime.

Best fighters? Mayweather has mapped out two fights, both rematches, against people he already beat, De La Hoya and Hatton.

How is anything clear that he can beat anyone at welterweight? He beat Sharmba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir. Floyd's only welterweight fights. Cotto beat Mosley, stopped Quintana, stopped Judah, stopped Urkal. All at welterweight. Actually, Cotto has a much better resume at 140 than Mayweather. I'm still wondering why Ring still has him as the welterweight champ is he is not fighting WELTERWEIGHTS.

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the DLH fight meant more, b/c floyd moved up in weight for that fight. it was an accomplishment considering where he started his career at. the weight, plus the fact dlh packs a punch and has only been stopped by hopkins.....it was a more "risky" fight. the money wasn't bad either! LOL

i agree, there is no reason to fight the 2 rematches, i mean the dlh fight will bring big money of course, but i don't really thnk pbf will fight hatton again, no reason to. i do think floyd will fight cotto in his next fight, or his next 2 fights, should cotto get past gomez.....too much money to leave on the table.

but do you really think cotto can beat mayweather??? that's why he's the "ring champ."

[FLY TY]

because the owner of the magazine is fighting him. and why Mayweather fanatics CONTINUE to view De La Hoya as a bigger accomplishment than Mosley is beyond comprehension when Mosley beat DLH 2 times. "Mosley was washed up and De La Hoya was still dangerous. No WW could have ever beat De La Hoya that night except Mayweather."

they automatically forget mosley already did.

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dlh was robbed the second time they fought, that's a fact................

SS beat dlh b4 he ended up losing twice to forrest, and he hasn't been the same since. still a good fighter, but everyone needs to stop pretending the shane mosley of today is that same mosley that beat dlh. its something about fighting that first guy to beat you, fighting him again, and losing again. it takes alot out of you.......mosley's never been the same. just my opinion, if he and dlh were to fight again, dlh would give it to him. both past their primes, but oscar is the better fighter today, and has looked better, despite fighting once a year..............

[Addison]

"Amnesia" is Criscio's favorite word.

[Addison]

The fact that GBP got Diaz the fight with Casamayor.. I hope that wasn't too shocking for people. Bank of America does shadier **** each day. It didn't suprise me one tiny bit. That's an easy situation for them to flex their muscle. Casamayor is to blame. All it took was one extra dollar.

[PeterinMI]

never thought i'd say this but steve kim is right on the money.

I think a bit too much sour g****s about the ring belt. The only reason it has the prestige it has is boxing fans long for a belt that means more then the worthless baubles that the sanctioning bodies pass out like candy to the favored son of the day. It is not perfect but the ring belt is the best there is at the moment.

[warp1432]

Hopkins retired after he won the Ring belt and was never stripped of the Ring belt when he retired, violating their magazine's guidelines. Hopkins has not faced a single "light heavyweight" ranked by Ring Magazine. Mayweather has not faced a single ranked welterweight by The Ring of the WBC. The last welterweight Floyd beat was in 2006 when he won the title from Baldomir. He wont fight one in 08 and 09 appears to be a Hatton rematch.

As far as the blow up junior middleweight, Wright refused to fight any higher than 170 because it was too much weight for him and blames the loss to Hopkins on fighting way too high.

Hopkins was a different case because The Ring new that he wasn't going to retire. They waited a bit. Mayweather "retired" on that.

And people coming up in weight count as defenses. Hatton counted as a Welterweight defense. The Ring didn't rank him in the ratings because they new he was going to go back down in weight. When Mayweather was going to fight De La Hoya, they rated him 3rd at Jr.Middle.

If they make the 147 pound limit then they are fighting for the 147 pound title. De La Hoya Mayweather 2 will probably be at 147 so that will count as a defense too.

Winky wasn't a blown up Jr.Middleweight though and he had to gain 10 pounds. Hopkins had to lose 5 to get there. It almost evens out and the weight wasn't the reason why Winky lost. Bernard beat him. It's bad writing on Kim's part.

edit: And Mosley and the De La Hoya wins balance out each other in my mind.

[AntonTheMeh]

Hopkins was a different case because The Ring new that he wasn't going to retire. They waited a bit. Mayweather "retired" on that.

And people coming up in weight count as defenses. Hatton counted as a Welterweight defense. The Ring didn't rank him in the ratings because they new he was going to go back down in weight. When Mayweather was going to fight De La Hoya, they rated him 3rd at Jr.Middle.

If they make the 147 pound limit then they are fighting for the 147 pound title. De La Hoya Mayweather 2 will probably be at 147 so that will count as a defense too.

Winky wasn't a blown up Jr.Middleweight though and he had to gain 10 pounds. Hopkins had to lose 5 to get there. It almost evens out and the weight wasn't the reason why Winky lost. Bernard beat him. It's bad writing on Kim's part.

edit: And Mosley and the De La Hoya wins balance out each other in my mind.

the oscar fight shouldn't of counted as a defense it was only for oscar's belt at 154

[warp1432]

I know, I'm talking about the rematch. The first fight didn't count as one, but the Hatton one did and if the rematch is at 147, then it will be for Floyd's 147 title.

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dlh was robbed the second time they fought, that's a fact................

SS beat dlh b4 he ended up losing twice to forrest, and he hasn't been the same since. still a good fighter, but everyone needs to stop pretending the shane mosley of today is that same mosley that beat dlh. its something about fighting that first guy to beat you, fighting him again, and losing again. it takes alot out of you.......mosley's never been the same. just my opinion, if he and dlh were to fight again, dlh would give it to him. both past their primes, but

sorry but your post is completely ridiculuos. the fact is that Floyd fans need to stop pretending that Oscar was the same fighter that beat Fernando Vargas. Its funny how you say DLH was robbed when many believe he was given a gift against Felix Sturm.

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oscar is the better fighter today, and has looked better, despite fighting once a year..............

Against who? Ricardo Mayorga? Aside the Mayorga win, Oscar's previous win was against Sturm, who again, many people felt he lost to. And that was 4 years go. FOUR years ago. How can anyone say that Oscar has looked "good" when he wasnt won a meaningful fight in almost 6 years now. He was inactive for 2 years up untill the Mayorga fight.

Mosley was on a win streak up untill he met Cotto. He had a dominating win over Luis Collazo. This gross overrating of De La hoya just because he fought Mayweather needs to stop. Anyone can say a fighter is still a threat, but the fighter needs to prove that and Oscar is currently no threat unless he beats someone worth while.

[supermandathoe]

1.Mosley was not Floyd's mandatory he was interim champion who was stripped of that belt the moment he signed to face Cotto.
2.Mosley-Oscar balances each other out
3.Hatton was ranked number 1 IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION at the time he fought Floyd
4.People that use Judah as a viable win for Cotto and not Floyd are a tad bit hypocritical
5.The damn thread is about Chad Dawson who is going to PUT IT ON Glen come the 12th.