If Fernando Vargas had a chin...

[Zarco]

Yes Vargas wasnt that good, depending on how you may interpret "that good". But no way can you say he didnt have skills.

[wichito_one]

The man got thrown in with the lions to fast in his career. I personally think he had a good chin and overall good skills but damn Tito just ruined him.After Tito he looked slower and his defense went to ****s. Still one of my fav fighters has a heart like no other.

[Primal Instinx]

Vargas had a tough chin...matter of fact he was never knocked down until the Trinidad fight. Trinidad ruined Vargas. I think if Vargas would have lost in the very first round he would still be boxing today but the punishment over twelve long rounds just destroyed him physically.

[Sin City]

would he of beat Trinidad and De la Hoya? For some reason I think he would have but he couldnt take hits that well. I dont have any comments on mosley and mayorga.

He would have beat Trinidad regardless if it wasn't for Trinidad cheating.. I'm no fan of Vargas but he had Tito hurt and Tito knew he was done if he didn't do something.. A lot of people will say that's B.S. but only because they hate Vargas. I hate Vargas too but I try to look at things rationally and unbiased though I don't get too much credit for it.

[Thread Stealer]

He would have beat Trinidad regardless if it wasn't for Trinidad cheating.. I'm no fan of Vargas but he had Tito hurt and Tito knew he was done if he didn't do something.. A lot of people will say that's B.S. but only because they hate Vargas. I hate Vargas too but I try to look at things rationally and unbiased though I don't get too much credit for it.

I don't know......Tito didn't look that seriously hurt.

Maybe he was. He was apparently hurt enough to want to give Vargas a brutal cheap shot to the nuts to buy some time.



I thought that besides the Hopkins fight, the most hurt I've seen him was against Alberto Cortes, but luckily for Tito that KD came at the end of the round.

[Drgamma]

Vargas was on steriods aginst DLH. His chin was good but no one can take a clean punch from DLH or Tito at that weight.

[KingTito]

I think Vargas never really fullfilled his career. I think he could've done more.

[Dick-Sucker]

hell no. Vargas wasnt even that good a fighter. He could just hit really really hard.

The 21 year old Vargas, would have destoryed the current MW scene. Injuries prevented us from seeing what he could have done at his peak.

[xcaret]

for those who think he wasnt skilled, you are all a bunch of ****ing dumbass's, look at his fights, he was beating tito everytime he boxed, for some reason he would stop and stand right in front of him sometimes and thats where he would get hit with hard shots... but Vargas had skills without a doubt, he beat QUARTEY for christ sakes, that ****ing amazing jab of Quartey wasnt enough for Ferocious.

[MANGLER]

Vargas had a good chin but not a great one. Remember it took a lot of accumulated punishment for Felix and Oscar to finish him, 12rds and 11 respectively. And he did enough to be in both of those fights on the cards til the end. He always had skills, but he had more physical strength than actual punching power. He's overrated as a puncher but was a good fighter. Had good wins in good fights against Ike and Winky. He could have beaten Tito and Oscar at 154/160, but he came up short.