If Fernando Vargas had a chin...

**Dick-Sucker** · 04-07-2008, 10:32 PM

Yes.

Vargas could have been an all time great, if he didn't get so many injuries.

**KESSLER** · 04-07-2008, 10:33 PM

Vargas is one of my all time favs.

heart of a lion and he had balls, man. That kid could FIGHT!!! he had all the talent in the world, so sad to see it all go to waste.

**KESSLER** · 04-07-2008, 10:33 PM

I think he could've beat them, no doubt.

He had Oscar hurt in their fight.

**Silencers** · 04-07-2008, 10:33 PM

I thought his chin was OK and no he wouldn't have beaten them, he was overhyped IMO, he didn't have the skills to beat DLH or Trinidad. His injuries didn't help either.

**Kball15** · 04-07-2008, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Ultimateboxa

Yes.

Vargas could have been an all time great, if he didn't get so many injuries.

hell no. Vargas wasnt even that good a fighter. He could just hit really really hard.

**Thread Stealer** · 04-07-2008, 10:35 PM

His chin was alright.

It doesn't mean he's chinny because he couldn't withstand all those left hooks and straight right hands from Felix Trinidad.

Later on he became more chinny, but I don't think it was that bad early on.

**Left2body** · 04-07-2008, 10:35 PM

Vargas had a chin, he was just hit pin point by one of the hardest hitting WW's of all time. I mean why does getting KO'd mean you have a bad chin? Duran got KO'd by Hearns another all time hard hitter at WW.

The problem was that they put a puppy against full sized dogs in Tito and DLH. It ruined him and he was never the same after the Tito fight and less so after DLH.

**Thread Stealer** · 04-07-2008, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Kball15

hell no. Vargas wasnt even that good a fighter. He could just hit really really hard.

Vargas had some heavy hands, but he wasn't that powerful. He didn't have that earth-shattering power like a Julian Jackson, or a turn-the-momentum-of-the-fight kind of power like Tito. He just had some pretty good power.

His skills were pretty solid. He knew how to shorten up his punches well. He threw good straight shots, which partially made up for the fact that he wasn't the quickest of fighters. He had a nice jab which he used well against Quartey, even getting the better of the jabs with Ike. He just wasn't blessed with the most natural gifts. He tried to box and move in the mid rounds against Tito, but his feet weren't quick enough and he kept getting caught. Tito turned things around in round 6 with a right hand late in the round, and kept catching Vargas when Vargas tried to box on the backfoot. Eventually Vargas tried to stand toe-to-toe with Tito in round 9, and that beating took a lot of out Vargas.

**!! Shawn** · 04-07-2008, 10:42 PM

He does have a chin. Actually, he has 3 or 4 of them.

If Fernando Vargas had a chin...