Have Calzaghe fans lost their minds?

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  • abadger
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    #51
    I already posted in this thread the reasons I think that some fans of Calzaghe + Hopkins are so forceful in their opinions.

    I do think though that this criticism of Calzaghe's fans as deluded is a little bit unfair, and comes from, I won't say delusion, but perhaps some of Hopkins fans are being a little selective with their assessment of the facts.

    There are plenty of good reasons to believe that Calzaghe might beat Hopkins pretty easily.

    1) That is exactly what he has done to almost every opponent he has ever faced.
    2) He looks to be carrying a lot of advantages over Hopkins. The only advantages anyone seems to be able to attribute to Hopkins, other than a quasi-mystical appeal to some sort of 'toughness', 'smartness', 'clever old-pro ness' etc, is a 'counter right hand' and a suggestion that Hopkins will cheat.
    3) Hopkins has relatively recently lost fights to inferior opposition than Calzaghe in Jermain Taylor.
    4) Hopkins is 43! No-one, I repeat no-one is immune to the effects of aging, and I doubt that Hopkins is the first fighter ever to look after himself!

    Predicting a Calzaghe victory, even a comfortable one, is anything but deluded. All the available evidence suggests that that is what will probably happen. It doesn't make it certain, and I'm sure Hopkins will make it a fight, but when all the evidence is in, that looks, right now, to be the most likely outcome.
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    Last edited by abadger; 03-20-2011, 11:03 PM.

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    • johnm is...
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      #52
      Originally posted by Gatti9783
      Pretty sure no one cares whether or not you post.
      Unlike your posts, which we sit on the edge of our seats, anxiously awaiting.

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      • Johnny Rebel
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        #53
        Originally posted by Addison
        And this isn't even about just Hopkins either. Calzaghe could beat Bruce Lee, Muhammad Ali, The Hulk, and Spiderman all at the same time at this point..

        It's getting a little crazy, indeed.


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        He is a ****in monster though!

        Nice video of Godzaghe!

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        • -Swizzy-
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          #54
          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          I'm disapointed in this article, it has some points, but is largely based around a perception of a majority of Calzaghe fans believing endlessly, deludedly almost, in his record and capabilities. Well I'm sorry, that is massively flawed and wrong, leaving the article and some flamers looking silly.

          I'm a Calzaghe fan, but in no way shape or form do I fit this ridiculous, offensive stereotype, and nor do the majority fit into it. As always, it's a minority. Where's the proof to show most do think this way? Nowhere, so it has no place claiming such things.

          Most believe it'll be a tight fight between two great fighters, and all I've seen here or anywhere in the UK, is the majority of people taking that view. So please if nothing more, remember that, and don't sign up to such promotions of ignorance and bashing. It's un-founded, not true, offensive to the majority whom do not think this way, and serves to create flaming.
          yes, majority of the calzaghe fans do fit into that view. its just that those majority aren't posting in here because that would prove the article right. its the select few calzaghe fans that think the hops-calz fight is going to be close that are posting in here.

          but IMO this article is adding excitment for the fight more than anything else even for the calzaghe fans. it'll be a nail-biter no matter who you are picking to win in this fight and I think thats the better msg in this article.

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          • Kris Silver
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            #55
            Oh right, so the people whom post here are a portion only of an apparent minority, saying it'll be close?

            Dude that's ridiculous, in every sense. Where have you met this apparent majority, in the UK? It's in your head. A stereo type is being promoted by SOME, and SOME, like you, are naively going along with it, claiming you know best. You clearly don't.

            This is a big global board, and if anything attracts SOME of the lesser ignorant fans, not more. I'm a Brit, I sift through a lot of media, tv, papers, interviews, debates, talk to people, friends, family, randoms, and NO WHERE, NO WHERE, is there signs of a majority believing Calzaghe will win comfortably. Try BBC comments from the public, where slightly lesser knowledgeable people post, even there people say it'll be tight.

            Don't claim what you don't know based on a hunch. It's insulting to the British public. I'm telling you the majority in the UK are not unlike elsewhere, they believe it'll be close decision for Calzaghe, get over it and stop trying to make something out of nothing.

            There's far more factual evidence for claiming this is deeply hypocritical, given most in the US genuiely believed Lacy would be the next big thing and beat Calzaghe comfortably, only to be absolutely dominated. Manfredo a good chance, ridiculously ruined. Most normally just leave this and don't brag about it, but if this is going to be said then that point is going to be fairly made. Your claiming theres delusion in the majority fans here in a guy un defeated, beaten previous so called greats, wanted Hopkins years ago, your ironically, deluded.

            If anything, Calzaghe doesn't get enough support in the UK like Hatton does, as sad as that is, will happily take that criticism.
            Last edited by Kris Silver; 04-02-2008, 08:33 PM.

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            • Gatti9783
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              #56
              Originally posted by johnm
              Unlike your posts, which we sit on the edge of our seats, anxiously awaiting.
              I'm not the one making bets that I'll leave the forum if one of my guys loses. Therefore, I'm not making claims on behalf of my posts. What's it to you anyway Mr. Kentucky?

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