Remember when James Toney said......

[-Swizzy-]

lower weight fighters do not punch harder(on avg) than the heavier weights. there is no discussion needed cuz its science and logic. just think of it this way, if pacquaio had 5 free power punches at lennox lewis's head, would he ko him? hell no. give 5 free puches to any heavyweight in the world, I garuntee you that lewis gets dropped everytime. there is no argument. and speed also has a factor obviously but weight has an even greater factor.

what would you rather get hit by? a tree log traveling at 20km/hr or a tooth pick traveling at 100km/hr? its just science.

[tyson]

that Iran Barkley hit him harder than Hasim Rahman. Before he faced Peter, Rahman was suppousedly the hardest punching opponent that James has faced as a heavyweight. when asked about the punching power of rahman, toney said that iran barkley had hit him harder at 167

toney is known for his mouth and talking bs. whether that was real, or toney tried to downplay the whole heavyweights-cant-hurt-me scenario is under question, at least for me.

toney is known for a good chin and neither barkley or rahman put him down, unless he was serious why would he lie about that?

punching power is a beautiful thing but it's also complex. i remember watching katsidis fight czar amonsot, and at one point emanuel steward made an interesting coment. he said that these guys punched harder than some heavyweights. he was talking about lightweights!!!!! guys weighing 135. it imediately reminded me of what toney said about rahman. and even though it was at a different weight i still cant play that out in my mind.

i've heard comments like that on several other ocaasions. i aslo believed there were harder punchers at lower weight classes than heavies. But Rahman is known to be a hard and legit puncher eventhough he's slow. he's powerful

it's an interesting topic to me

before i didnt take james seriously but this statement keeps coming back to me

thoughts??

(this thread is a little break from the 24/7 mayweather disscusion )

These things are all relative.

Toney at heavy can take a better punch than Toney at middle.

Manny saying Katsidis punching harder than a heavy is a metaphor.

No, there is no way Hearns or Barkley or superman at middleweight punches with more power than the hardest punching heavyweights.

I'd rather want Hearns to punch me ten times before Tyson one time.

[Ryn0]

You saying Lennox Lewis was a small heavyweight?? or you mean Joe Louis?

Joe Louis obviously, how on earth is Lennox a small heavyweight lol

[kayjay]

Toney can't remember how hard a punch was from fifteen years ago

[Derranged]

I dont believe anything Toney says, he generally talks out his ass, especially nowadays. Is he ever gonna fight again?

[Boogie Nights]

Joe Louis obviously, how on earth is Lennox a small heavyweight lol

lol all right just making sure, cause you spelled louis lewis

[Boogie Nights]

I dont believe anything Toney says, he generally talks out his ass, especially nowadays. Is he ever gonna fight again?

he will, i think that he's still on steroid suspension. if he is gonna come back id like to see him fight a big name. i dont care if he's rusty, he's not at a point in his career where he can afford meaningless fights