If Mayweather had a more likable personality, would he be making better numbers?

[Fox McCloud]

He has a background of a Sugar Ray Leonard but a personality of a Hip Hop/Gangsta Rap influence. It just wasn't mean to be for him to be a smiling role model type. It works for some and it doesn't for others....just ask Mosley. He once was a top p4p unbeaten fighter who smiled alot.

It's a different generation and all around he still isn't a bad guy. He will tell you himself that nobody ever talks about the good things he does like charity, giving out turkey's etc,.

Like Roy Jones, he is at the top of the heap right now and fans are reacting to it. He knows what's going on and he is responding with his bahavior lashing out at the boxing fans who don't like him.

IMO, Mosley is not a very good looking guy. Also, the prospect spotlight wasn't on Mosley like it was Mayweather. Mayweather had a spot on the undercard of the De La Hoya-Whitaker PPV against some ****ing part-time electrician in his 8th fight I think. Floyd was bred to be a superstar, Mosley was not.

He also didn't start this thug-ass gangsta **** until recently, which, by the way, doesn't fit him at all. He actually looks rather ridiculous trying to be SO HOOD! He doesn't even really wear his pants below his waist all that much.

Then again, you could be right that he would have been nothing more than the second coming of Roy Jones Jr.

[Easy-E]

With the talent Mayweather holds (a gold mine in boxing) would he have had better numbers and viewership all throughout his career if he would have had a better personality ala Ray Leonard or Oscar De La Hoya.. Vladimir303 doesn't seem to think so.. do you agree?

IM not sure what your talking about, but Floyd is popular.
He is everywhere, and has set ppv records.

[Fox McCloud]

IM not sure what your talking about, but Floyd is popular.
He is everywhere, and has set ppv records.

The question is whether he would maximize his appeal/money-making prospects by being the good guy or the bad guy.

[Addison]

I'm forced to disagree.

That is your right. My opinion is based on more than 10 years of experience in the entertainment business, and a little bit of life experience as well..

There are no two ways about it.

[Vladimir303]

IMO, Mosley is not a very good looking guy. Also, the prospect spotlight wasn't on Mosley like it was Mayweather. Mayweather had a spot on the undercard of the De La Hoya-Whitaker PPV against some ****ing part-time electrician in his 8th fight I think. Floyd was bred to be a superstar, Mosley was not.

And why is that?

I disagree that Floyd was bred to be a superstar anymore then Mosley. Floyd was obsessed with having Delahoya status in terms of popularity and making money but he was never crazy about the idea of being him. It took him years to get to where Oscar got in less then 20 fights. On may 5th, he got his shot and is now making the best out of it playing it safe which I agree with and expending his popularity through mainstream television shows with his "Pound 4 Pound best fighter in the world" shtick.

He also didn't start this thug-ass gangsta **** until recently, which, by the way, doesn't fit him at all. He actually looks rather ridiculous trying to be SO HOOD! He doesn't even really wear his pants below his waist all that much.

Well let's not stereotype what's hood and what isn't. I agree he looks ****** trying to act too tough. Telling Hatton that he would prison **** him looked ridiculous considering that Hatton is ugly and he has a pretty face which would get face ****ed if he ever went to the Joint.

However, his rich guy flashy persona that he portrays seems to be working for him. Not the hood ****, but the hip hop/rich and famous act he does makin it rain is workin for him.

Then again, you could be right that he would have been nothing more than the second coming of Roy Jones Jr.

Anybody who gets to the top like Roy or Floyd will have large amount of critics and just straight up haters on their back. Even Ali, who self proclaimed himself as The greatest before he even won a title.

[Vladimir303]

The question is whether he would maximize his appeal/money-making prospects by being the good guy or the bad guy.

As you've said in your previous posts. He wasn't always this brash acting like a wannabe 50cent gangsta rich guy.

Did it make anymore money then when he faced Oscar and hyped the event with his persona?

[Fox McCloud]

And why is that?

I disagree that Floyd was bred to be a superstar anymore then Mosley. Floyd was obsessed with having Delahoya status in terms of popularity and making money but he was never crazy about the idea of being him. It took him years to get to where Oscar got in less then 20 fights. On may 5th, he got his shot and is now making the best out of it playing it safe which I agree with and expending his popularity through mainstream television shows with his "Pound 4 Pound best fighter in the world" shtick.

Well let's not stereotype what's hood and what isn't. I agree he looks ****** trying to act too tough. Telling Hatton that he would prison **** look ridiculous considering that Hatton is ugly and he has a pretty face which would get face ****ed if he ever went to the Joint.

However, his rich guy flashy persona that he portrays seems to be working for him. Not the hood ****, but the hip hop/rich and famous act he does makin it rain is workin for him.

Anybody who gets to the top like Roy or Floyd will have large amount of critics and just staright up haters on their back. Even Ali, who self proclaimed himself as The greatest before he even won a title.

1. Mosley was not bred as much as Floyd because he started in a weak division and had no Olympic background because Forrest beat him out of the spot.

2. I was actually making fun of the DJ Khaled song titled "I'm So Hood". T-Pain's lyrics in the chorus start out: "I wear my pants below my waist".

[Fox McCloud]

As you've said in your previous posts. He wasn't always this brash acting like a wannabe 50cent gangsta rich guy.

Did it make anymore money then when he faced Oscar and hyped the event with his persona?

Honestly, I doubt Floyd's personality had much to do with the PPV sales. I think people were attracted because it was the most popular guy of all-time fighting the best right now. That kind of **** attracts the average brain-dead idiot.

[Vladimir303]

Honestly, I doubt Floyd's personality had much to do with the PPV sales. I think people were attracted because it was the most popular guy of all-time fighting the best right now. That kind of **** attracts the average brain-dead idiot.

Just that would have gotten them 1.5 mill like Trinidad-Delahoya. Two prime unbeaten fighters, PR vs Mexico......all of that. But not 2.5k buys.

The trash talk and the 24/7 series added another extra million of ppv buys.

I honestly believe that Floyd's antics during press-confs and during the 4 part series made the fight what it is. Some people just couldn't resist ordering after watching all of that.

Then you have your typical hollywood or rich person who can afford expensive tickets and wanted to be in the scene because they thought that's where everybody is at. But that's ticket sales.

[raysan]

Floyd is as big of he is because the way he acts, hes controversial and controversy sells. By acting the way he does, there are people who follow his every move just to see him mess up or lose, and whether those people know it or not theyre fans because in part they become part of his fanbase because they buy all of his fights just to hate on the guy or to see him lose, which only makes Mayweather bigger. Wrestling fans who hate him will probably buy his next fight hoping he gets KO'd, just like boxing fans who dont like him watched his wrestlemania appearance so they could talk about how much of a fool he made out of himself.

Floyd is a smart guy, he made it to where you either hate him or love him, but either way you care and youre going to follow his career and anything he does. If he was just a "good guy", of course he would have fans but there would also be those people who just dont care so no, he would not be bigger.