Too sum this Mayweather stuff up

[BmoreBrawler]

its a losing battle, C-Drone. Give it up, this kid wont give in.

[THe TRiNiTY]

What I find interesting about a Mayweather fan is that they claim he's the best and can beat anyone. Yet, look for ANY REASON for him to avoid his toughest fights. It's as if they want him to say he's the best without having to prove it.

They have this logic of, Why fight? He'd win anyway? If that's the case, then shouldn't he just retire? It's really the dumbest form of 'logic' that I've ever heard of. Quite sad.

[THe TRiNiTY]

its a losing battle, C-Drone. Give it up, this kid wont give in.

There's really nothing to lose.

[2501]

What I find interesting about a Mayweather fan is that they claim he's the best and can beat anyone. Yet, look for ANY REASON for him to avoid his toughest fights. It's as if they want him to say he's the best without having to prove it.

They have this logic of, Why fight? He'd win anyway? If that's the case, then shouldn't he just retire? It's really the dumbest form of 'logic' that I've ever heard of. Quite sad.

ive pointed this out a million times with no response. its like kryptonite to them.

[Vladimir303]

I seem to not have a problem with the first post. So I'm gonna assume, just for a moment that you agree with most parts of it. The problem then becomes if there are no names for Mayweather to beat at WW, who is Cotto supposed to beat in order to BECOME bigger. Wouldn't he NEED to fight Mayweather? Or is the number one contender just supposed to clean out the division for the champion, and finally get a shot? That's not how it GENERALLY works. It's happened. But a champion is supposed to actually be the one cleaning up. Taking on everyone who people think can beat him. It's impossible, but that's the point. You fight until you have proven once and for all that you're the best in that division. Mayweather has not. Cotto is ACTUALLY cleaning up what Mayweather has yet to even start doing.

That DOESN'T help Floyds legacy. What WOULD help him is if he fought the young, hungry fighters. Regardless of how much money they make him.

What Cotto is doing right now at welterweight, Floyd has done at 130 years ago, defending a WBC title against super-featherweight contenders. Lets not forget who has the more established record here despite their 30-0 and 39-0 unbeaten numbers.

Imo, only thing left for Cotto to do is fight that Cintron/Margarito winner. If successful, there is nothing else but Floyd. Are the Margarito/Cintron's great? No but they're the next best guys behind Cotto and Mayweather. Why ask the #1 guy Floyd to fight the # 3 and #4 guy when the # 2 guy Cotto can do it and add more credibility to his 2nd best status?

If Cotto does that, Floyd has no choice but to fight him and no reasonable fan could defend him.

[Vladimir303]

What I find interesting about a Mayweather fan is that they claim he's the best and can beat anyone. Yet, look for ANY REASON for him to avoid his toughest fights. It's as if they want him to say he's the best without having to prove it.

They have this logic of, Why fight? He'd win anyway? If that's the case, then shouldn't he just retire? It's really the dumbest form of 'logic' that I've ever heard of. Quite sad.

I agree with that. Despite my defense for Floyd Mayweather, I'm not on the same level of thinking as the thread creator or the Horus's of the world.

I actually find those guys a little annoying just like some of the more extreme and more devoted Floyd Haters. They **** all over their points with some of the **** they say.

[Vladimir303]

Furthermore, Floyd doesn't claim that he's waiting for him to be a great fighter, he waits on him to be a bigger star. He's a big enough star that the matchup could happen, and would make sense.

Floyd can't claim to be the biggest star. If he thinks he still needs a big name to draw. Time to prove all the **** he talks.

I'm not defending what Floyd says. It's how I see it. Clearly the guy either has issues or he is soo deep into this Money Mayweather persona that he can't see clearly.

Either way, he needs a public speaker to speak on his behalf. As ****y as he is, he is one dimensional verbally. He needs some lessons from Bernard Hopkins on how to get your point across in front of the cameras.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Yeah and that, just to be clear, wasn't directed at you. The guy who kept referring to every reasonable critic OR hater as simply haters. His type annoys the hell out of me.

I think it's great that Mayweather wants to make money. Few fighters have the chance to make as much. But, for people to act like Cotto needs to be the one to clean out the division is insane. Mayweahter has done this at 130, but this is 147. He should be atleast working towards Cotto. It seems as if he's not. Fought the 140 champion, then the 154 fighter (twice, most likely). He's not even touching the 147 division, yet holds a title. I'm just saying it'd be nice if he gave Cotto a hand.

[Vladimir303]

Yeah and that, just to be clear, wasn't directed at you. The guy who kept referring to every reasonable critic OR hater as simply haters. His type annoys the hell out of me.

I think it's great that Mayweather wants to make money. Few fighters have the chance to make as much. But, for people to act like Cotto needs to be the one to clean out the division is insane. Mayweahter has done this at 130, but this is 147. He should be atleast working towards Cotto. It seems as if he's not. Fought the 140 champion, then the 154 fighter (twice, most likely). He's not even touching the 147 division, yet holds a title. I'm just saying it'd be nice if he gave Cotto a hand.

Did Sugar Ray Leonard work his way up or earn his shot for the Middleweight title against Hagler? No Hagler cleaned out the division and Leonard fought the best middleweight and defeated him.

Perhaps this is a extreme comparison but Floyd is not a true welterweight. He is more known as a P4P best then Welterweights best. This is Cotto's second division. He is the the younger more active fighter. If anybody is gonna clean out the welterweight division against the non-great yet solid 147lb contenders, it's Cotto. And then Floyd will be the Leonard to Cotto's Hagler where he steps in and fights the main guy.

[2501]

[SIZE="3"]Did Sugar Ray Leonard work his way up or earn his shot for the Middleweight title against Hagler? No Hagler cleaned out the division and Leonard fought the best middleweight and defeated him.

didnt Marvin hagler call out Leonard first? I could have sworn that Leonard played hard to get for a while untill he submitted.