Pacman Left The Division Just In Tyme!!

[muppetman]

Valero is gonna move up to 135 with Pac and he can KO him there in under 6 like u say!!! what the hell are you bitching about??? That Pac should stay at 130 cuz Valero is too small for 135?? Just awhile ago you were saying that Valero is naturally bigger than Pac so i dont see what you big ****ing problem is.

where in the **** did you here that!!!

[shadeyfizzle]

where in the **** did you here that!!!

In the Pac is a coward i think so thread you started awhile back

[shadeyfizzle]

VALERO WOULD KO PACMAN IT WOULDNT GO PAST 6 ROUNDS vALERO HITS HARDER HES A SOUTH PAW LIKE PAC AND YOUNGER!!!PAC IS SMARTER THAN MORALES....MORALES WAS HAVING WEIGHT ISSUES AND HE STAYED THEIR...LOOK WHAT HAPPEND THE SAME WOULD HAVE HAPPEND TO PAC YOU CUM GUZZLER!!

Look i'm done arguing about this. You keep insinuating that Pac is a coward...That he's ducking this fighter or avoiding that fighter. But bottomline is that being the big paycheck Pac represents to all these guys..it wouldnt matter if pac jumped all the way up to middleweight...They will ALL follow him to that weight and He will either fight them eventually and/or they will all fight each other to get to Pac So it really doesnt matter who's ducking who and who's better skilled or stronger than who...it will all unravel itself in a very short amount of time anyway so there's no need for you to keep bitching about it. That's all im saying

[Sweet Peacock]

Valero is too open to counters. JMM and Pacquiao would pick him apart with shots down the middle, Valero would always have a punchers' chance though. Guzman probably has better skills than Pacquiao but he hasn't been made to dig deep within himself to win a fight yet, he needs a top level opponent to prove that he can do that.

Guzman ''dug deep'' in his fights with Jorge Barrio and Humberto Soto. When he was hit with flush shots from two heavy hitters, he took it well and was never rocked nor staggered.He also doesn't need to brawl but he just chooses too. He can out box anyone that is currently in that division because he has that slick counter punching style and is under Floyd Sr.






Sweet

[Silencers]

Guzman ''dug deep'' in his fights with Jorge Barrio and Humberto Soto. When he was hit with flush shots from two heavy hitters, he took it well and was never rocked nor staggered.He also doesn't need to brawl but he just chooses too. He can out box anyone that is currently in that division because he has that slick counter punching style and is under Floyd Sr.






Sweet

That just means he takes shots OK, I meant what happens when he'd faced with adversity, behind in a fight or whatever the situation may be, can he come back and win? We don't know that yet.

I don't mean he doesn't have heart or desire, I'm just saying Pacquiao has found ways to win when he's seemingly in with better fighters.

[Papa Ace]

You gotta hand it to these Pacquaio haters to concoct a scenario like this. Boy , after Manny's last win, Boxingscene has been turned into like a pre-school nursery full of crybabies

So Pacquiao is lucky to move out of SFW because Valero is now cleared to fight in the US ? Why is Valero even considered a future, serious opponent for Pacquiao in the first place? You can say much about his amazing KO record, but he has yet to take a major scalp in FW to prove himself. Added to the fact that despite his current amazing feat, he still has very little draw. Low PPV numbers which translates to low revenue, a no-go if youre the promoter.
He should get line, and the line has a long queue.

Its very fortunate enough that Valero can now fight in the US again, let him have his time to start building his career and make noise. He either KOs Marquez, Guzman, Luevano or any combination of that Im sure he'll get his due and the dealing tables will be be open.

Dont be too excited for Valero, he still has much to prove.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

I understand people's affection for Valero because he is a big puncher, but to think he would beat the likes of Pac, JMM or Guzman is far fetched. If you've watched him fight his wide open to be hit and is sloppy as hell. I just don't see it and once he steps up against elite competition he'll be proven for what he is and that's bascially just a huge puncher. He's not even the best Venezuelan boxer, Jorge Linares is.

[shadeyfizzle]

Dont be too excited for Valero, he still has much to prove.

Amen to that. Same goes for Guzman and Soto. They will all beat the hell out of each other at some point to try and get a shot at Pac or Diaz at 135. When that happens we shall see who if any of the 3 is actually worthy or should be feared. My money is on none of the above.

[-Swizzy-]

VALERO TO ME HITS HARDER HES STRONGER AND FRESHER AND MORE DURABLE HES YOUNGER AND HUNGRIER MANNN I WOULD HAVE LOVE TO SEE THIS FIGHT....I HOPE JMM NEVER FIGHTS VALERO......I KNOW JMM IS BETTER FIGHTER BUT HE IS JUST GETTING OLD AND WE KNOW IT CANT BE EASY TO BE AS GOOD AS HE AS AT 34 E****ALLY BEING A FEATHERWEIGHT ......VALERO MAY BE TO STRONG FAST AND RELENTLESS BUT YOU NEVER NO...VALERO ALSO THINKS GUZMAN IS A BETTER THAN PAC!!! .....THIS IS JUST MY TAKE ON HIM LEAVING I THINK HE SHOULD STAY AT 130!!!

Valero has zero defense. probably the worst defense I've ever seen but thats ok cuz lack of defense creates offense and oh does he ever create offense. but pacman would be the fastest fighter that valero has ever seen and I don't know if you can say valero is more powerful cuz all he does is throw haymakers and if pacman were to imploy that same strategy I think he could be just as powerful.

[bestboxingonly]

I think valero is exciting, hes a pressure fighter. he keeps antillon at bay when they spar and hits hard though pac has very good body movement and chin. id like to c him war w/ pac, jmm and the top dogs.