should Marquez immediately follow Manny to 135?

[2120]

While that is true, think of the impression that would leave on Pacquiao and the leverage is gives Marquez in his own career. He holds three belts then and is now in a position to be a big money fighter on his own; he may not even need Pacquiao at that point though i'm sure his pride would never keep him from fighting him again. Sure Casamayor would be easier than Campbell but a Campbell dismanteling would be a hell of a statement for Marquez to make to the lightweight division. Right now the Lightweight division is almost as hot as the Welterweight division and if Marquez and Pacquiao both move up, the more money they are able to make. At this point in the game I think Marquez should go all out and go for the gusto; there's more for him at 135.

I think moving up to 135 would be a risky move for Marquez
but for whatever its worth Marquez totally dominated a fighter in peden that beat campbell twice.

I know theirs more intangibles involved (you lost to him, so i can beat you kind of thinking) but maybe the Marquez's team might consider fighting campbell because of that. In order to bring something to the table for a third match with the pacman it might be worth the risk.

Yeah I would have to agree with you

[Boxinguru]

Nah, I say he should stay at 130lbs & attempt to take over that division, b/c it is no guarantee if he moves to lightweight that Arum & Co are going to accept the offers for the rematch!

[Migs]

Nah, I say he should stay at 130lbs & attempt to take over that division, b/c it is no guarantee if he moves to lightweight that Arum & Co are going to accept the offers for the rematch!

They'll have a lot harder time not accepting it if he becomes the other major staple in that division, moreover, it's entirely possible they could lose the leverage they have currently. There will always be value to a Pacquiao-Marquez trilogy, but how much could be determined by where Marquez goes and what he accomplishes.

[shadeyfizzle]

I had Pac winning the 1st fight. 2nd fight was a draw. And i think Marquez should fight Casamayor. Undisputed championship is only a pitstop 4 Pacquiao. His ultimate goal is Casamayor and the record settin 4division lineal championship. It would be a better strategic move for Marquez to beat Casamayor because it forces Pacquiao to forego the undisputed championship and pursue the lineal championship 1st. Killing 2birds with 1 stone and giving Marquez the opportunity to deny Pac of both if he wins a rubbermatch.

YOU NEVER NO IT COULD HAPPEN THAT WAY

It very well could my friend....it very well could......

I dont think Marquez could stop Pac from history even if everything plays out the way i hope it will... but there is no denying that possibility

[Pullcounter]

there's lots of good fights for jmm at jr. lightweight.... the only reason he should go up to lightweight is if he's guaranteed a 3rd fight with Pac.

[shadeyfizzle]

there's lots of good fights for jmm at jr. lightweight.... the only reason he should go up to lightweight is if he's guaranteed a 3rd fight with Pac.

There wont be any good fights for Marquez at 130 cuz Pacquiao is taking half the division with him to 135. Even if Marquez goes up to 135 there are still no guarantees for a 3rd fight with Pacquiao. Grab some belts from Campbell or Casamayor however and you just painted yourself a much different picture.
Between Campbell on Casamayor tho...Casa would be the only 1 i could picture even considering a Marquez fight.

[Migs]

There wont be any good fights for Marquez at 130 cuz Pacquiao is taking half the division with him to 135. Even if Marquez goes up to 135 there are still no guarantees for a 3rd fight with Pacquiao. Grab some belts from Campbell or Casamayor however and you just painted yourself a much different picture.
Between Campbell on Casamayor tho...Casa would be the only 1 i could picture even considering a Marquez fight.

Really? I feel he's to concerned about money right now. Not to downplay Marquez's ability to draw an audience, but Casamayor called out only big names in Pacquiao and even a knowingly retired Barerra. I think he's just trying to get one last big payday because realistically, he capitalized off a poor mistake made by an over-anxious Katsidis (who though I love, lacks a true boxing ability at least thus far) and was losing that fight quickly. Marquez I think may be more a risk than a reward to Casamayor and I think Nate Campbell is only interested in fighting Casamayor at this point, though I'm sure the thought of having Pacquiao in that division is giving him a hard on.

[WHB3]

Without a doubt. There's no money at 130 and a ton at 135.

[shadeyfizzle]

Really? I feel he's to concerned about money right now. Not to downplay Marquez's ability to draw an audience, but Casamayor called out only big names in Pacquiao and even a knowingly retired Barerra. I think he's just trying to get one last big payday because realistically, he capitalized off a poor mistake made by an over-anxious Katsidis (who though I love, lacks a true boxing ability at least thus far) and was losing that fight quickly. Marquez I think may be more a risk than a reward to Casamayor and I think Nate Campbell is only interested in fighting Casamayor at this point, though I'm sure the thought of having Pacquiao in that division is giving him a hard on.

Out of ANYBODY within 20lbs of Pacquiao...Marquez is the only 1 that wants a fight with Pacquiao NOT for a giant payday. Both Casamayor and Campbell are concerned with giant paydays. You couldnt force Campbell to risk his belts if his life depended on it right now because he knows Pacquiao will come knocking for them after diaz. Campbell and Casamayor also both know that between the 2 of them...Campbell is the more attractive option for a Pacquiao fight. So for Casamayor...with very little in the tank...will have to rack up a win against Marquez if he wants to come within 15ft of Pac so he can play the "I beat the guy that almost beat you" card

[WHB3]

You people are nuts if you think he should stay at 130. Pacquiao/Marquez just did 400,000 buys. That means that both guys are money fighters and anyone in that lightweight division that wants a big payday (see: Campbell, Nate and Casamayor, Joel) should be looking at Marquez since Pacquiao's apparently tied up with Diaz.