should Marquez immediately follow Manny to 135?

[shadeyfizzle]

The only reasonable option would be for Marquez and Casamayor to fight each other. Campbell is not dumb. He absolutely will not risk losing his titles to anybody other than the big money fight with Pacquiao. He knows Pac will come knocking for his straps soon as he wins one from diaz if he does. The only way you will see Campbell fight until challenged by Pacquiao is a mandatory defense against former champ Juan Diaz. Marquez cannot stay and try to rule at 130 because everyone else with half a decent name at 130will jump up to 135 and chase big money fights with J.Diaz and Pacquiao so there will be noone for Marquez to rule over at 130. Only logical step for both Marquez and Casamayor is a bout with each other. They both know the time is ticking for them and a fight with each other is the fastest possible route to pacquiao.

[isbj]

First off anyone who can come off the floor and still put up a hell of a fight has a good chin. You gotta give him credit, Pacquiao has world class power and p4p one of the hardest punchers. Second seems like everyone is thinkin Marquez should step up to lightweight and fight on of the elite i.e. Cambell, Casamayor, Juan Diaz etc. while Pacman gets fed David Diaz who is not even on those aforementioned level.

He will be the one taking the harder steps to chase down a fight with Pacman and in the end still receive the low end of the stick (i.e. pay, contract stipulations etc.) just to force another rematch that boxing needs anyways.

With that being said he should fight someone like Julio Diaz or maybe even Kid Diamond.

Either way he will not be given any respect for being the one who makes the fight happen!

[shadeyfizzle]

First off anyone who can come off the floor and still put up a hell of a fight has a good chin. You gotta give him credit, Pacquiao has world class power and p4p one of the hardest punchers. Second seems like everyone is thinkin Marquez should step up to lightweight and fight on of the elite i.e. Cambell, Casamayor, Juan Diaz etc. while Pacman gets fed David Diaz who is not even on those aforementioned level.

He will be the one taking the harder steps to chase down a fight with Pacman and in the end still receive the low end of the stick (i.e. pay, contract stipulations etc.) just to force another rematch that boxing needs anyways.

With that being said he should fight someone like Julio Diaz or maybe even Kid Diamond.

Either way he will not be given any respect for being the one who makes the fight happen!

Well like i said...harder steps or not a casamayor fight is likely the only option for both fighters to get a shot at pacquiao. Beating a Julio Diaz or Juan Diaz or even Katsidis will not be enough to secure a Pacquiao match. A lineal belt turns marquez into an obstacle for Pacquiao if he wants to be the record setting 4 division champion and pretty much guarantees the rubbermatch on a much grander scale than one to just happen right off the bat.

[isbj]

Well like i said...harder steps or not a casamayor fight is likely the only option for both fighters to get a shot at pacquiao. Beating a Julio Diaz or Juan Diaz or even Katsidis will not be enough to secure a Pacquiao match. A lineal belt turns marquez into an obstacle for Pacquiao if he wants to be the record setting 4 division champion and pretty much guarantees the rubbermatch on a much grander scale than one to just happen right off the bat.

I agree Casamayor is who he should fight for the linear chamionship. It's the only way Pacman can't legitimately avoid JMM.

Like I said he will not be given any respect for trying to force the fight either way, but Pacman is not being criticized too badly for fighting Diaz. Diaz is to Pacman as what Sharmba Mitchell was to Mayweather.

[shadeyfizzle]

I agree Casamayor is who he should fight for the linear chamionship. It's the only way Pacman can't legitimately avoid JMM.

Like I said he will not be given any respect for trying to force the fight either way, but Pacman is not being criticized too badly for fighting Diaz. Diaz is to Pacman as what Sharmba Mitchell was to Mayweather.

Criticized too badly?? You only dont hear much about it because the idea of it is so ridiculous it's pretty self evident and not worth mentioning for alot of people. I'm filipino and even im not ordering this ridiculously overpriced PPV. No matter what happens in this fight it will not be a surprise to me and still will not be worth watching other than highlights. Either Pacquiao lied about being naturally bigger now and gets muscled for 12 rounds or Pacquiao wins by early stoppage. Neither result would get me to bat so much as an eyelash. The only reason this bout is even happening is to set up a unification bout with Campbell for the undisputed championship. But as far as Marquez goes...he NEEDS a casamayor fight regardless anyway. Without a legitimate victory over Pacquiao and an disputable win with Barera he will not get any credit for fighting any of the younger prospects at 130. A victory over Casamayor at least helps Marquez's hall of fame bid at least even without a Pacquiao as the ultimate objective

[isbj]

Criticized too badly?? You only dont hear much about it because the idea of it is so ridiculous it's pretty self evident and not worth mentioning for alot of people. I'm filipino and even im not ordering this ridiculously overpriced PPV. No matter what happens in this fight it will not be a surprise to me and still will not be worth watching other than highlights. Either Pacquiao lied about being naturally bigger now and gets muscled for 12 rounds or Pacquiao wins by early stoppage. Neither result would get me to bat so much as an eyelash. The only reason this bout is even happening is to set up a unification bout with Campbell for the undisputed championship. But as far as Marquez goes...he NEEDS a casamayor fight regardless anyway. Without a legitimate victory over Pacquiao and an disputable win with Barera he will not get any credit for fighting any of the younger prospects at 130. A victory over Casamayor at least helps Marquez's hall of fame bid at least even without a Pacquiao as the ultimate objective

I didn't mean what you thought about the fight I was speaking in broad terms of what's representative in the media and the forums.

There's articles and threads on a daily basis that criticize PBF for fighting DLH who is more dangerous to PBF than Diaz is to Pacman. Being that Pacman is neck and neck with PBF in the p4p rankings he should be fighting better competition.

In other words I agree with you.

[muppetman]

The safer route would be to challenge Casamayor instead of Campbell thou.

Campbell presents a much more physical and grueling fight than Casa.

marquez has the goods to trouble campbell all night ....if he trys that style he did on juan to marquez he will eat leather all night and he will lose marquez will counter that ass all night....marquez should stay out of slug matches for now till he gets to manny ....i dont think manny really wants this fight though

[DrewWoodside]

I think JMM has the name recognition fully now. I also think he and manny had a pair of great battles. He should solidfy his name by beating other good fighters if has any gas left in the tank. I don't think he should base his career around chasing down manny. If he gets the chance at some point I think he should fight Manny at any weight available but until then he should focus on himself. There are plenty of people between junior light and light. Also, IMO plenty of straps are wide open at lightweight.. So if that's what he really wants it wouldn't be so difficult. Casamayor may prove to be even easier than Diaz for a fighter with a good defense.

[isbj]

I think JMM has the name recognition fully now. I also think he and manny had a pair of great battles. He should solidfy his name by beating other good fighters if has any gas left in the tank. I don't think he should base his career around chasing down manny. If he gets the chance at some point I think he should fight Manny at any weight available but until then he should focus on himself. There are plenty of people between junior light and light. Also, IMO plenty of straps are wide open at lightweight.. So if that's what he really wants it wouldn't be so difficult. Casamayor may prove to be even easier than Diaz for a fighter with a good defense.

There's not to many straps open at lightweight that matter. Campbell has 3 of them and David Diaz has the other with Casa holding the interim WBO and Linear titles. With Diaz being fed to Pac his only choices are Campbell and Casa at lightweight.

[muppetman]

I think JMM has the name recognition fully now. I also think he and manny had a pair of great battles. He should solidfy his name by beating other good fighters if has any gas left in the tank. I don't think he should base his career around chasing down manny. If he gets the chance at some point I think he should fight Manny at any weight available but until then he should focus on himself. There are plenty of people between junior light and light. Also, IMO plenty of straps are wide open at lightweight.. So if that's what he really wants it wouldn't be so difficult. Casamayor may prove to be even easier than Diaz for a fighter with a good defense.

YUP your right,,,i just think the manny thing is to personal for him.