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  • FRKO
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    #161
    Originally posted by vladimir303
    Hopkins defeated Tarver, a man who who defeated an all time great in Roy Jones. Who has Kessler beaten? What has he done besides bringing a alphabet soup title belt into the ring with him? What has Jeff Lacy done besides bringing a inexperienced undefeated record with him to Whales?

    Welterweights or not....beating Trinidad and Delahoya is a far greater achievement.
    It's Wales, not Whales.

    That's funny man! Peace.

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    • Carlisle
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      #162
      Calzaghe will be exposed

      Uppercut, Right Hand Lead. Right Hand Lead, Uppercut. Tie him up.. Beat him up.
      All that dropping his hands and dancing... oh he's going to get exposed. Kessler already exposed his flaw of squaring up and dropping his head after throwing combos. No question Hopkins will expose him. When is the last time you have seen Hopkins get cut, go down or even get staggered? Its not gonna happen. Roy Jones in his prime couldnt hurt Hopkins. Calzaghe is getting spanked.. bottom line.

      Originally posted by FRKO
      P4P rankings don't mean ****.

      Sure, we'll see if Calzaghe gets "exposed", and we'll bump this thread after the fight.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Carlisle
        Uppercut, Right Hand Lead. Right Hand Lead, Uppercut. Tie him up.. Beat him up.
        All that dropping his hands and dancing... oh he's going to get exposed. Kessler already exposed his flaw of squaring up and dropping his head after throwing combos. No question Hopkins will expose him. When is the last time you have seen Hopkins get cut, go down or even get staggered? Its not gonna happen. Roy Jones in his prime couldnt hurt Hopkins. Calzaghe is getting spanked.. bottom line.
        Remind me how many uppercuts Kessler landed.

        As for "Uppercut, Right Hand Lead. Right Hand Lead, Uppercut. Tie him up.. Beat him up", come on man, let's be realistic here. It'll be more like "Right hand, grab, get on your bike, right hand, grab, back-peddle, dodge, lead with the head, headbutt because there's no other way of winning this ****ing fight..."

        And so on.

        That's the bottom line.

        PS: Mercado dropped Hopkins twice. Taylor staggered him.

        Calzaghe hasn't lost since 1990. It was in the amateurs, Prague, and the decision was extremely controversial. If Hopkins somehow, as if by magic, manages to drop Calzaghe, he'd better be prepared to be taken out, Mitchell style.
        Last edited by FRKO; 03-26-2008, 11:15 PM.

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        • Carlisle
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          #164
          Who has Calzaghe fought besides Kessler?

          Who has Calzaghe fought besides Kessler? No one. Kessler the only decent fighter who Calzaghe has fought. A record full of bums makes him legendary?

          Originally posted by FRKO
          Remind me how many uppercuts Kessler landed.

          As for "Uppercut, Right Hand Lead. Right Hand Lead, Uppercut. Tie him up.. Beat him up", come on man, let's be realistic here. It'll be more like "Right hand, grab, get on your bike, right hand, grab, back-peddle, dodge, lead with the head, headbutt because there's no other way of winning this ****ing fight..."

          And so on.

          That's the bottom line.

          PS: Mercado dropped Hopkins twice. Taylor staggered him.

          Calzaghe hasn't lost since 1990. It was in the amateurs, Prague, and the decision was extremely controversial. If Hopkins somehow, as if by magic, manages to drop Calzaghe, he'd better be prepared to be taken out, Mitchell style.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
            It's a shame he couldn't be bothered to try out a prime Hopkins or prime Jones.
            more like a shame on hopkins

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              #166
              Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
              Bull****...
              the lacy calzache fight was even odds

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              • FRKO
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                #167
                Originally posted by Carlisle
                Who has Calzaghe fought besides Kessler? No one. Kessler the only decent fighter who Calzaghe has fought. A record full of bums makes him legendary?
                Pffff. Why do I even bother...

                If you look into his resume and consider the fighters on that list at the time, you'll see it's nowhere near being filled with "bums". The fact that he's so many levels higher than pretty much anyone he fought doesn't mean they were all bums. They were fighting Joe for a reason.

                OK, so there are not too many famous Americans on that list. Honestly, who gives a ****? Is boxing really all about famous name recognition? There is a whole world outside of America. Besides, who's fault is it anyway? Hopkins ducked out of the fight they'd arranged 6 years ago. Joe has been asking for the Hopkins fight for longer than I can even remember. As for the American fighters who've been put in front of him so far, he beat them all convincingly. Or should he be beating up welterweights and light middles, just because they have a famous name?

                Trinidad... Pffff. Welterweight.
                De La Hoya... Welterwight.
                Tarver... super-deflated.
                Winky... Bloated light middleweight.
                Mercado... Oh, yeah, he got decked like a spaz *twice* during that one and came away with a draw. Got knocked through the damn ropes, for crying out loud.
                Jones... Bernard lost that one.
                Taylor.... Lost twice! No cigar, chief.

                Is this really so much more impressive than Calzaghe's list just because you recognise those names? Joe would have smacked the **** out them too, and probably more convincingly than Bernard did himself. At least Joe's been fighting people his own size. Legit, belt-holding challengers. Holders of multiple belts. Champions and former world champions. Sure, there are a couple of nobodies on that list, but tell me one fighter who hasn't fought a few? Only difference is people from America don't know **** about the fighters on Joe's resume because they refuse to take their blinkers off and realize there's more, much more, to the boxing world than the USA.

                As I said, i don't know why i even bother arguing this ****. You are so convinced of your beliefs already, so I'm basically just wasting my time.
                Last edited by FRKO; 03-27-2008, 12:30 AM.

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                  #168
                  I suppose Joe Louis was a bum too because he destroyed the heavyweights for 12 years. Not enough big names...must have ******.

                  That's ridiculous. It comes down to two men, in a ring, throwing (and defending) punches. Anything can happen, within tactics. Calzaghe has never lost, period. He's been champ for 10 years. Hopkins has been defeated in each of the high-profile fights (of the same weight class) he's been in.

                  We know Calzaghe can take a punch, as was proven in the Kessler fight. B-Hop's work rate won't be even close to what Mikkel was doing, nor as powerful. Joe will throw probably 700-800 punches and win an easy decision.

                  And to a comment posted earlier: No, Jones didn't "hurt" Hopkins, but he completely out-boxed him and coasted through the 12th.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
                    It's a shame he couldn't be bothered to try out a prime Hopkins or prime Jones.
                    hopkins has been dodging joe for over 4 years.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Brassangel
                      I suppose Joe Louis was a bum too because he destroyed the heavyweights for 12 years. Not enough big names...must have ******.

                      That's ridiculous. It comes down to two men, in a ring, throwing (and defending) punches. Anything can happen, within tactics. Calzaghe has never lost, period. He's been champ for 10 years. Hopkins has been defeated in each of the high-profile fights (of the same weight class) he's been in.

                      We know Calzaghe can take a punch, as was proven in the Kessler fight. B-Hop's work rate won't be even close to what Mikkel was doing, nor as powerful. Joe will throw probably 700-800 punches and win an easy decision.

                      And to a comment posted earlier: No, Jones didn't "hurt" Hopkins, but he completely out-boxed him and coasted through the 12th.
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                      joe will throw 700-800 punches, land about 100 of his soft ass pity pat punches, and get countered by about 250 power shots on his way to getting ko'ed in the 11th.

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