Why do people ***** about Cotto's PPV numbers?

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  • HotSizzle
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    #21
    Dam dev you such a hater

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    • Sin City
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      #22
      Originally posted by deliveryman
      How am I hating? I like Miguel Cotto as a boxer. Cotto may very well pass Mayweather in terms of accomplishments in the boxing ring, that has yet to be seen. But what the does that have to do with our discussion?

      You said Cotto was getting mainstream exposure, and I simply proved you wrong. And now you're switching arguments, because you've ran out of rebuttals. It is what you call a fallacious argument.

      Cheerio
      I already told you, he has made guest appearances for his last three fights on ESPN Friday Night Fights, etc,
      He is all over the Latin mainstream, He is fighting on HBO Boxing After Dark and has already had a couple PPV's, Every boxing news source is talking about him.. If that isn't getting maintstream exposure.. I dunno what is!
      He even got a sponsorship deal from an airline company.
      How else did Mayweather get mainstream exposure other then by fighting on HBO Boxing After Dark?
      What you want him to be on cereal boxes and commercials??
      I can't recall Mayweather ever being in anything pre-DLH fight! No one was even interested in him.
      It's only now that he is going on WWE and such.. Again, quit hating son.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #23
        In 6 years Cotto won't be worried about fighting Mayweather. That's on his mind NOW and NOW he isn't a huge draw.

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        • Sin City
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          #24
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          In 6 years Cotto won't be worried about fighting Mayweather. That's on his mind NOW and NOW he isn't a huge draw.
          In six years Mayweather will still be making up excuses to why they shouldn't fight.. He's been doing it since Bruseles

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          • el malo
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            #25
            keep owning these fools, devious LOL!!!

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            • Point Blank
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              #26
              The Only People That ***** About Him Are The Bitches That Makes The Same Excuses That Fake Floyd Does. **** Floyd People Should Not Watch This ***** Clown Fight. Let Him Be Like That. I Want To See Him Fight In The Unknown Boxing Matches Where There Would Only Be 500 People. **** This Guy. He Is The One That Makes The Boxing Look Ugly With His Fake Stunts.

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              • Left2body
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                #27
                I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'm not so sure about Cotto's super stardom the way DLH or RJJ were. I mean he is an top fighter, probably considered elite at this time but I'm still not sure.

                Pros for Cotto's future fame:
                1) fights in the most mainstream and talented weight division that isn't the HW's.

                2) Cotto's style and vulernabilities (yes I said vulnerabilities) make him appealing to boxing fans and nonboxing fans. Cotto has that Gatti ability to be visibly hurt but recover and win impressively via KO most of the time. All boxing aside that is great drama. Thats the kind of drama the Rocky series was built on.

                3) Cotto is attempting to speak English in order to cross over and be more appealing to American fans.

                Con's for Cotto's future fame:
                1) He has no perceptable out of ring charisma. Cotto doesn't make flashy predictions and talk a mile a minute and lacks that something that makes a person warm up to another on a personal level.

                2) If your not cuddly and endearing enough to be a good guy in boxing then **** you better be (or play the role of) a bad guy. Look at wrestling (marketing genuises with ****ty product). All wrestlers are either bad or good because it creates interest.

                Cotto is stuck in the middle and leaves many people indifferent towards him winning or losing. However when it comes to PBF you know at least a quarter of the PPV buys were people tunning in hopes of seeing him get KO'd.

                Hatton has the Brtis (didn't roll over to well with americans) all cheering for the "everyman" who is so likeable because, hey he still lives down the block from mum and da and goes to the same local pub and plays darts with a pint in his hand. DLH is very very similar but with Americans and that all american image.

                Tyson was popular in large part to the persona that was created aroundhim. The bad ass persona that had statements like "I'm gonna **** you till you like it" and "I want to eat his kids". **** I think Tyson had a WWE writer on his payroll that **** was marketing gold.

                IMHO Cotto is gonna have to find a persona (or his handlers create one) for him to be able to hit that next level of stardom and become a super mainstream Mega figher.

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                • Point Blank
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left2body
                  I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'm not so sure about Cotto's super stardom the way DLH or RJJ were. I mean he is an top fighter, probably considered elite at this time but I'm still not sure.

                  Pros for Cotto's future fame:
                  1) fights in the most mainstream and talented weight division that isn't the HW's.

                  2) Cotto's style and vulernabilities (yes I said vulnerabilities) make him appealing to boxing fans and nonboxing fans. Cotto has that Gatti ability to be visibly hurt but recover and win impressively via KO most of the time. All boxing aside that is great drama. Thats the kind of drama the Rocky series was built on.

                  3) Cotto is attempting to speak English in order to cross over and be more appealing to American fans.

                  Con's for Cotto's future fame:
                  1) He has no perceptable out of ring charisma. Cotto doesn't make flashy predictions and talk a mile a minute and lacks that something that makes a person warm up to another on a personal level.

                  2) If your not cuddly and endearing enough to be a good guy in boxing then **** you better be (or play the role of) a bad guy. Look at wrestling (marketing genuises with ****ty product). All wrestlers are either bad or good because it creates interest.

                  Cotto is stuck in the middle and leaves many people indifferent towards him winning or losing. However when it comes to PBF you know at least a quarter of the PPV buys were people tunning in hopes of seeing him get KO'd.

                  Hatton has the Brtis (didn't roll over to well with americans) all cheering for the "everyman" who is so likeable because, hey he still lives down the block from mum and da and goes to the same local pub and plays darts with a pint in his hand. DLH is very very similar but with Americans and that all american image.

                  Tyson was popular in large part to the persona that was created aroundhim. The bad ass persona that had statements like "I'm gonna **** you till you like it" and "I want to eat his kids". **** I think Tyson had a WWE writer on his payroll that **** was marketing gold.

                  IMHO Cotto is gonna have to find a persona (or his handlers create one) for him to be able to hit that next level of stardom and become a super mainstream Mega figher.
                  SO WHAT U ARE TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ONE HAS GOT TO BE A TOTAL ******* TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION? WOW THE WORLD'S THAT ****ED TODAY EH. ONLY *******S GETS ****.

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                  • JHAVIS
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by De√ious
                    He started his career in 2001.. Seven years into Mayweather's career he hadn't even had a PPV fight yet and was fighting on HBO against Castillo, Victorian Sosa and Phillip N'duo. Seven years into Cotto's career he already has a large following and though his PPV numbers haven't been spectacular.. He's already been on PPV! Mayweather has a 6 year career advantage on Cotto of course he is gonna have better recognition. I'm willing to bet that within 6 years Cotto will be better recognized then Mayweather is right now at this point.
                    im a cotto fan as well as a mayweather fan but highly doubt he will ever get the exposure floyd has. do u think cotto will ever get an invite to be on dancing on the stars or an invite to ever play in an nba celebrity ball game? these things have taken floyd to levels of superstardom. i could continue to list others also. in the next 6 years if cotto is around, he will only be known in the world of boxing, no further.

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                    • Johnny Rebel
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                      #30
                      Mayweather versus Cotto is the best fight that can be made at 147. The problem Cotto has is that De La Hoya and Hatton rematches will bring Mayweather allot more money, and "money" is what Mayweather is all about these days.

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