Do you think Pavlik-Wright will happen?

[Boogie Nights]

id never exclude that possibility, but another question is does winky deserve the shot at the middleweight title? i say no, i say there are bunch of other guys out there who deserve the shot more than winky does. if the contract will be open for negotiations winky has the bigger chance of scoring because of his name, and that's not fair to the other guys.

[deanrw]

Well, unless Kelly fights another champion I'm going to go ahead and say Winky is as viable an option as anyone. I mean, some still consider him a pound for pound fighter- even if that's a stretch- and, overall, he may have lost his last fight but it was to pound for pound fighter Bernard Hopkins. I mean come on...Winky DID get a draw to the former undisputed middleweight champion of the world, right? That gives him SOME claim.

I'm not denying that he is capable. I even think he could possibly upset Pavlik. At minimum it will be a close fight as it will go the distance. He just has to stay busy otherwise nobody will care. As it stands right now, Pavlik gains nothing by beating him as Winky is now considered a Ring Rusty veteran who was coming off a loss. No momentum at all.

If Winky puts a couple wins under his belt and looks good, then he becomes an attractive victory in Arum's eyes for Pavlik. There are other fighters out there showing their faces by fighting, sparking interest in themselves. Winky is home playing his XBOX all cranky because his phone isn't ringing with someone offering him his next PPV fight.

No promoter or Broadcaster will even touch this fight, unless Winky does his part in earning his paycheck and help make the card a financial success.

[Njord777]

I'm not denying that he is capable. I even think he could possibly upset Pavlik. At minimum it will be a close fight as it will go the distance. He just has to stay busy otherwise nobody will care. As it stands right now, Pavlik gains nothing by beating him as Winky is now considered a Ring Rusty veteran who was coming off a loss. No momentum at all.

If Winky puts a couple wins under his belt and looks good, then he becomes an attractive victory in Arum's eyes for Pavlik. There are other fighters out there showing their faces by fighting, sparking interest in themselves. Winky is home playing his XBOX all cranky because his phone isn't ringing with someone offering him his next PPV fight.

No promoter or Broadcaster will even touch this fight, unless Winky does his part in earning his paycheck and help make the card a financial success.

Well, Pavlik won't gain much momentum from this victory unless it's a devastating KO- I agree. What middleweight can offer much more esteem or money, though? I know an Abraham will get him more respect but I can't see it netting that much money. I mean Winky was never a huge gross but he is still a name....he carries more money than most opponents I've heard mentioned...like Duddy or Abraham.

[Boogie Nights]

I'm not denying that he is capable. I even think he could possibly upset Pavlik. At minimum it will be a close fight as it will go the distance. He just has to stay busy otherwise nobody will care. As it stands right now, Pavlik gains nothing by beating him as Winky is now considered a Ring Rusty veteran who was coming off a loss. No momentum at all.

If Winky puts a couple wins under his belt and looks good, then he becomes an attractive victory in Arum's eyes for Pavlik. There are other fighters out there showing their faces by fighting, sparking interest in themselves. Winky is home playing his XBOX all cranky because his phone isn't ringing with someone offering him his next PPV fight.

No promoter or Broadcaster will even touch this fight, unless Winky does his part in earning his paycheck and help make the card a financial success.

i still dont understand how the **** Winky-Hopkins landed on PPV. this is just as ridiculous as it gets folks, the only entertaining fights that night were on the undercard. mainly that katsidis cat who had the drama with a cut eye and workmanlike performance.

but i think that winky wright should be kept away, or banned from PPV period. people suppoused to pocket out 50 bucks for a good night sleep??
hello that's why we have pharmacy stores with the good old pills. but winky should start his own insomniac campaign. people who suffer from insomnia, no problem just watch winky wright.

i really think that doctors should write out prescriptions for winky wright fights to to their patients who are suffering from a lack of sleep.

[Fox McCloud]

^^^^^

I'm not going to lie, Winky isn't a PPV fighter, but seriously, he isn't nearly as boring as most people make him out to be. Hopkins made this fight as boring as it was.

[deanrw]

Well, Pavlik won't gain much momentum from this victory unless it's a devastating KO- I agree. What middleweight can offer much more esteem or money, though? I know an Abraham will get him more respect but I can't see it netting that much money. I mean Winky was never a huge gross but he is still a name....he carries more money than most opponents I've heard mentioned...like Duddy or Abraham.

All he has to do is fight a tuneup or two and I'll be on board for this fight. Winky is a well known name, but also an unknown quality at this point. He is also probably expecting PPV type money knowing him and no promoter or HBO would want to touch it. This is not a PPV fight.

Pavlik is not a huge draw yet and Winky is not either. It is a fight that enthusiasts are interested in, but it is a hard sell. Duddy on the other hand, even after his near disastrous last fight, is still a bigger fight as Duddy has a big dedicated fanbase.

All Winky has to do is fight. His name will get out there again and will gain value.

[Njord777]

All his has to do is fight a tuneup or two and I'll be on board for this fight. Winky is a well known name, but also an unknown quality at this point. He is also probably expecting PPV type money knowing him and no promoter or HBO would want to touch it. This is not a PPV fight.

Pavlik is not a huge draw yet and Winky is not either. It is a fight that enthusiasts are interested in, but it is a hard sell. Duddy on the other hand, even after his near disastrous last fight, is still a bigger fight as Duddy has a big dedicated fanbase.

All Winky has to do is fight. His name will get out there again and will gain value.

While I agree with the general sentiment behind your post I don't see Duddy as a bigger fight than Pavlik-Wright.

[Boogie Nights]

^^^^^

I'm not going to lie, Winky isn't a PPV fighter, but seriously, he isn't nearly as boring as most people make him out to be. Hopkins made this fight as boring as it was.

i tend to agree slightly, i think winky pulls his **** together when his opponent tries to make a competitive night for him. ill say the truth, his 2 fights with mosley were not boring, neither was the taylor draw, and id say that his fight with vargas was probably the most exciting one out of all his fights, pretty even with the taylor one, but his fights with quartey, sam soliman, and other earlier fights were really lackluster in terms of excitement. even his destruction of trininidad wasnt all that, it was a good boxing lesson but again not PPV worthy. hopkins wright gives a good run to taylor-spinks, i would just like to forget those fights and live my life without those memories. jeez going to the dentist was a heck of a lot more easier and less painful than watching his fiasco with b-hop.

[deanrw]

While I agree with the general sentiment behind your post I don't see Duddy as a bigger fight than Pavlik-Wright.

A Pavlik-Duddy fight in MSG would sell out in no time. A Pavlik-Winky fight would be in some Atlantic City Casino Ballroom.

It is not fair and Winky is a much more capable fighter than Duddy. Duddy though, fights often and has a huge following. He is also a gutsy SOB that is guaranteed to bring an exciting fight with him, even if it is a short one.

[Fox McCloud]

i tend to agree slightly, i think winky pulls his **** together when his opponent tries to make a competitive night for him. ill say the truth, his 2 fights with mosley were not boring, neither was the taylor draw, and id say that his fight with vargas was probably the most exciting one out of all his fights, pretty even with the taylor one, but his fights with quartey, sam soliman, and other earlier fights were really lackluster in terms of excitement. even his destruction of trininidad wasnt all that, it was a good boxing lesson but again not PPV worthy. hopkins wright gives a good run to taylor-spinks, i would just like to forget those fights and live my life without those memories. jeez going to the dentist was a heck of a lot more easier and less painful than watching his fiasco with b-hop.

I thought he put on his most exciting performance against Quartey. He threw over 1000 punches!

Some of his fights are boring, and it seems to be dependent on the style of the fighter he is facing.

He tends to open up against power punches (go figure, right?) like Taylor, Vargas and Trinidad to an extent. If Trinidad had been more game that night, it probably would have been more exciting, but if Winky was killing him by doing almost nothing with the jab, then why do anything else?

He tends to put on unpleasing performances against volume punchers like Candelo, Hernandez and Soliman. He blocks a lot of the shots, and throws enough of counterpunches to win the rounds.

His fights with Mosley were good, but I can't explain that stylistically.