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  • meanmoe
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    #51
    Maybe, if the cost for PPV was reasonable then more folks would purchase them and no one would lose money. However, it is my guess that the folks that use you tube could not, or would not, pay that exorbitant fees for watching it. This means that no real revenues were lost.

    That said, I would be more willing to entertain higher fees for PPVs, if a portion of the revenues were placed in a fund to increase purses for non-Main Event fighters. These boxers are the heart and soul of the sport and deserve to make a better living and not have to fight every month. Promoters could take a small reduction in profit, headline boxers a smaller cut in pay, and the sport is better for it. In the end, nobody needs to make that many millions per fight.

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    • bigpunisher531
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      #52
      So What!

      The Boxing Promoters **** Our Pockets Once A Month And We Have To Just Take It If We Wanna See the Fight. So I For One Am Happy To Get To Watch a PPV Bpxing Match For Free. Thank You YouTube. **** the Boxing Promoters!!!!!!

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      • Nero
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        #53
        I love the way it goes.
        Since promoters will earn less, so less money will go to the boxing councils and organisations, which will lead to a constant struggle between them. Current status quo where everyone gets his dollar will be routed. Most of the belts will loose its value and we won't have situation with 3 world champions in each weight division of each organisation. Beside that boxers will be earning less and they will need to fight more often than once a year.

        Is that bad for boxing??

        Youtube is the best thing that happened to boxing since the invention of TV.

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        • Vladimir303
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          #54
          Originally posted by frankpaganini
          Youtube and other means of watching fights for free (like sopcast and others) are NOT the downfall of boxing...

          PPV's are the downfall of boxing.

          why not broadcast these fights on broadcast tv or cable tv?

          need revenue?

          thats what sponsors are for...

          Fans of the NFL dont pay $50 to watch a playoff game or the superbowl...what do they do? charge 2 and a half million + dollars to advertise during the superbowl...

          it earns all kinds of crazy money.

          want even BETTER revenues?

          allow more fans to go to the big fights...hold them in football arenas that hold 50-70K and up...

          theres you revenue...bleeding the fans for $50 once a month (sometimes twice a month) isnt going to do anything but hurt boxing in the end...

          how?
          casual fans stop watching...
          new fans dont get brought in (since its on PPV its not accessible to them...face it...if it was on your local channels and you were an average fan of a sport you'd tune in because its accessible and free...but you wouldnt pay $50 to tune in when you arent a huge fan...or a new fan at that who knows little about the sport)
          for us here on the net we stop buying the ppv's and watch them for free via live web stream...

          you cant blame the fans for not paying...how much money do they try and hustle from us fans every year in ppv's? hundreds and hundreds of dollars easily...

          its not fair...

          not everyone can spend $50 to $100 extra every month in addition to their regular tv bills...

          not everyone (especially casual fans) are captivated enough to spend that much money for guys they dont know...why dont they know them? because they are hidden on PPV fights and rarley get free tv fights (like free HBO) and when they do they have unexciting "tune-up" fights...oh yeah...thats going to entice the casual fan...

          its ridiculous...

          i think ppv needs to go away...it doesnt really belong in sports...

          lets be honest...how many of us would pay $50 to see the superbowl...the world series...the nba finals...or just big regular season games?

          very few...
          From a fan's point of view, this would be great. But think about it, we already had all of the things you're talking about in the 60's and 70's. It was great for the fan but was it great for the fighter?

          Delahoya-Mayweather can't compare to the Frazier-Ali's-esque events fights but how much did those two make again? The first Ali-Frazier fight was a bigger event/fight then all of the fights today but how much did they make? Delahoya and Mayweather both cashed in 20+ million each due to PPV. They promoted the **** out of it and people bought into it. It was like advertising a movie before it comes out and cashing in millions during the opening weekend at Cinema.

          I don't know exactly but it sure isn't even 10 million for each. What's great for the fan is not that great for the fighter himself. Even the WWE has a monthly pay-per-view because they can't pay their wrestlers without it.

          And to fighters, and I mean full time fighters, not firemen or policemen who fight on the side. Real fighters, boxing is their job, not a hobby. However as a fan, don't let them stop you from using Sopcast or Youtube.
          Last edited by Vladimir303; 03-20-2008, 12:48 AM.

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          • PoetryInMotion
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            #55
            Originally posted by vladimir303
            From a fan's point of view, this would be great. But think about it, we already had all of the things you're talking about in the 60's and 70's. It was great for the fan but was it great for the fighter?

            Delahoya-Mayweather can't compare to the Frazier-Ali's-esque events fights but how much did those two make again? The first Ali-Frazier fight was a bigger event/fight then all of the fights today but how much did they make? Delahoya and Mayweather both cashed in 20+ million each due to PPV. They promoted the **** out of it and people bought into it. It was like advertising a movie before it comes out and cashing in millions during the opening weekend at Cinema.

            I don't know exactly but it sure isn't even 10 million for each. What's great for the fan is not that great for the fighter himself. Even the WWE has a monthly pay-per-view because they can't pay their wrestlers without it.

            And to fighters, and I mean full time fighters, not firemen or policemen who fight on the side. Real fighters, boxing is their job, not a hobby. However as a fan, don't let them stop you from using Sopcast or Youtube.
            Your comparing two completely diff. situations. How much did Wilt Chamberlin and Julius Erving make in comparison to Kobe Bryant and Lebron James? Times have changed, basketball hasn't switched to pay per view, yet they can afford to pay their athletes incredible amounts of money. A boxer would probably step in the ring with a wild bear for the kind of money these other athletes are making. Part of the problem is that the boxers under sell themselves, they think they need the promoter, when it's the promoter who doesnt have a card to sell or anything to promote without them. If Basketball did switch to PPV they would slowly destroy themselves as boxing is, and if boxing switched OUT of PPV, I think they would discover new found life. It's so hard for boxing to get new fans to the sport because they dont want to pay to watch something they know nothing about. And when they finaly do, it's Mayweather-DLH, and I bet they all said the same thing afterward. "Im never paying for this **** again."

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            • Darkstar
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              #56
              This is only going to get worse for boxing fans. Some of my fav. boxing clips on youtube have been there forever. Now thier removed due to "A claim by Don King Productions"

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              • Vladimir303
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                #57
                Originally posted by R.I.P. Corrales
                Your comparing two completely diff. situations. How much did Wilt Chamberlin and Julius Erving make in comparison to Kobe Bryant and Lebron James? Times have changed, basketball hasn't switched to pay per view, yet they can afford to pay their athletes incredible amounts of money.."
                Yes but those are rich basketball team owners who can afford to pay that kind of money. They even have sallery caps in basketball to prohibit those owners from paying too much so they wouldn't steal all the best players from other teams.

                You don't have that in boxing. Does a promoter have the kind of money a basketball owner like Mark Cuban (a billionaire) does?

                I don't think so.

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                • meanmoe
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Nero
                  I love the way it goes.
                  Since promoters will earn less, so less money will go to the boxing councils and organisations, which will lead to a constant struggle between them. Current status quo where everyone gets his dollar will be routed. Most of the belts will loose its value and we won't have situation with 3 world champions in each weight division of each organisation. Beside that boxers will be earning less and they will need to fight more often than once a year.

                  Is that bad for boxing??

                  Youtube is the best thing that happened to boxing since the invention of TV.
                  Amen, the more people watching the better for the sport. I remember there would at least one good boxing match per week on TV, growing up. Usually better then FNF main event now.

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