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  • Fox McCloud
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    The Mystery of Shane Mosley

    I'm sure I'm going to get berated by some of the ****s on this forum who feel the need to act like a **** whenever someone questions anything about any fighter. So, to pre-empt it, I say to them... Go **** yourself.

    Anyway, I was thinking about the way Shane Mosley fights, and to be honest, I am pretty surprised by how well his career has ended up, especially in his post-lightweight days.

    He had some decent power at 135, so I can see how an inside brawling power punch style would come in handy, because your power would wear the guy down pretty quickly. But how he has been successful at 147 is beyond me. (I'm leaving 154 out of the conversation, because he has been anything but successful up there IMO)

    His defense isn't excellent, so he is obviously going to take a lot of punishment, considering his fight is on the inside, where it is very difficult to stay away from the return fire. He also didn't have great power at 147. So basically, he played the role of the inside volume puncher with no power against the P4P #1 best in the sport Oscar De La Hoya, and won. It's pretty shocking to me to be honest.
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    Speed is his key and he had very good power at lightweight actually, he was 31-0 with 29 KO's I believe when he moved up but speed was still his main weapon, he had very good footwork and could punch at odd angles, combinations used to flow off of him like it was nothing.

    Moving up and beating DLH was a very good achievement, he was the first one to actually beat DLH (I know about the Trinidad fight, but I had DLH winning, so did many people). It was a very, very good fight and I think he managed to stun DLH a few times with quick right hands. But we have to remember, he himself said he was a natural welterweight who had to drain himself to make lightweight.

    About 154, he never should have moved up, plain and simple. Bottom line, Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters this decade.

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    • -Swizzy-
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      #3
      Originally posted by silencers98
      Speed is his key and he had very good power at lightweight actually, he was 31-0 with 29 KO's I believe when he moved up but speed was still his main weapon, he had very good footwork and could punch at odd angles, combinations used to flow off of him like it was nothing.

      Moving up and beating DLH was a very good achievement, he was the first one to actually beat DLH (I know about the Trinidad fight, but I had DLH winning, so did many people). It was a very, very good fight and I think he managed to stun DLH a few times with quick right hands. But we have to remember, he himself said he was a natural welterweight who had to drain himself to make lightweight.

      About 154, he never should have moved up, plain and simple. Bottom line, Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters this decade.
      you said it. nothing more to say there.

      Dwiens, are you being serious or just looking for reactional posts?

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        Originally posted by silencers98
        Speed is his key and he had very good power at lightweight actually, he was 31-0 with 29 KO's I believe when he moved up but speed was still his main weapon, he had very good footwork and could punch at odd angles, combinations used to flow off of him like it was nothing.

        Moving up and beating DLH was a very good achievement, he was the first one to actually beat DLH (I know about the Trinidad fight, but I had DLH winning, so did many people). It was a very, very good fight and I think he managed to stun DLH a few times with quick right hands. But we have to remember, he himself said he was a natural welterweight who had to drain himself to make lightweight.

        About 154, he never should have moved up, plain and simple. Bottom line, Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters this decade.
        yeah, i gotta agree, shane is one of the best fighters of this decade and he was just too small for forrest and winky. i also think he had the best chance of any of the ww's at beating cotto.

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          Originally posted by DWiens421
          I'm sure I'm going to get berated by some of the ****s on this forum who feel the need to act like a **** whenever someone questions anything about any fighter. So, to pre-empt it, I say to them... Go **** yourself.

          Anyway, I was thinking about the way Shane Mosley fights, and to be honest, I am pretty surprised by how well his career has ended up, especially in his post-lightweight days.

          He had some decent power at 135, so I can see how an inside brawling power punch style would come in handy, because your power would wear the guy down pretty quickly. But how he has been successful at 147 is beyond me. (I'm leaving 154 out of the conversation, because he has been anything but successful up there IMO)

          His defense isn't excellent, so he is obviously going to take a lot of punishment, considering his fight is on the inside, where it is very difficult to stay away from the return fire. He also didn't have great power at 147. So basically, he played the role of the inside volume puncher with no power against the P4P #1 best in the sport Oscar De La Hoya, and won. It's pretty shocking to me to be honest.
          Seriously, where did you get this idea that Shane's game is on the inside? This isn't a serious post is it? Shane Mosley an inside volume puncher?



          I seriously expected more of you. I have never seen such an ignorant and easily disprovable statement as "Mosley played the role of the inside volume puncher."

          Please, please, PLEASE watch the fights before you make such ****** statements. You are a good poster, but this was just horrible.

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            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Seriously, where did you get this idea that Shane's game is on the inside? This isn't a serious post is it? Shane Mosley an inside volume puncher?



            I seriously expected more of you. I have never seen such an ignorant and easily disprovable statement as "Mosley played the role of the inside volume puncher."

            Please, please, PLEASE watch the fights before you make such ****** statements. You are a good poster, but this was just horrible.
            Chill. The only thing dude might have done wrong is to call the style of Mosley by the wrong name.

            Mosley is more of an medium-distance combination-counter-puncher or something. It's hard to put a fighter like him in a booth.

            Dwiens- I have thought about Mosley's success many a time, and it's really quite astonishing. I think it has more to do with presence and toughness than speed or power, really.
            He's in your face all night long, throwing fast, hard punches while smiling at the punches being landed on him.

            I believe he is so mentally tough that it just demotivates opponents.

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              some fighters just want to be exciting. simple as that. shane has the athletism to be a defensive tactician. i get hated alot when i say that there are alot of fighters that COULD fight like Mayweather and be successful if they wanted to, but they dont. It takes a certain personality to have to promote yourself outside of the ring so that people will pay to watch you fight when your defensive minded. Mosely aint the type to be acting a fool out the ring.

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              • wmute
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                #8
                Originally posted by 2501 OnTheWrist
                some fighters just want to be exciting. simple as that. shane has the athletism to be a defensive tactician. i get hated alot when i say that there are alot of fighters that COULD fight like Mayweather and be successful if they wanted to, but they dont. It takes a certain personality to have to promote yourself outside of the ring so that people will pay to watch you fight when your defensive minded. Mosely aint the type to be acting a fool out the ring.
                I won't hate you just reming you that you are not making ANY sense.

                Out of curiosity who would be the fighters who COULD fight like Mayweather and choose not to?

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                • wmute
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                  Shane is tough, he hits hard and he was also veeery fast. Not to mention he can take a serious punch. I guess that when you throw in angles and movement you have the reason of his success. He was not big at 147. but did definitely not look a lightweight.

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                  • tyson
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by wmute
                    I won't hate you just reming you that you are not making ANY sense.

                    Out of curiosity who would be the fighters who COULD fight like Mayweather and choose not to?
                    I could. In fact, on the ropes, I do.

                    The shoulder roll is not particular hard to do. What is hard about Floyd's style is the subtle little things he does to throw you off your game.
                    And the sharpness, coolness and smartness under fire.

                    I take it that when we talk about Floyd's style, we talk in general about the shoulder-roll defensive stuff!?

                    In that case, most good fighters can learn how to fight that way.

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