Anderson Silva Vs Roy Jones Jr!?

[ANDROID_DOES]

this would do well because it will be the first time big names from two different forms of fighting would go at each other. They would market it as ufc vs boxing. it would be a huge event all mma and boxing fans would get it. whether it was a mma event or boxing event. in boxing rjj would beat the **** out of him. in mma i still think rjj or any boxer has a chance because they are standing up throwing and no way an mma could stand up with a boxer. they will try to go to the ground but who's to say they would actually be able to get in close to grab them without gettting knocked out by a solid uppercut.

[sterling]

they completely different forms of fighting so i duno maybe roy jones because hes bigger then silva ? but maybe silva cause he does more who knows in a boxing match roy takes it but in mma roy losses lol

[Scott9945]

And that's why I don't see this as a marketable event.

Then you don't know anything about marketing. The top P4P MMA fighter going against a former P4P boxer in boxing is marketable without doubt. A former Pro Wrestling guy going against a former UFC champ did 650,000 buys a month ago.

There is no comparison with the Mir-Lesnar MMA match. Lesnar was a proven grappler and a legit tough guy. This is entirely different. Nobody would pay to see the unqualified Silva get punched out by a former champion in a boxing match. People aren't that ******. You wouldn't see more than 100,00 buys for it. If they make the fight (and they won't), contact me and we can discuss it some more.

[Boogie Nights]

mma, ufc, pride fighting and all that **** are on different time zones, they need to wake up and start smelling the smoke blowing out their asses from a boxer's punch. this ****er floyd started with that ****, and they wont finish. you'd start to think that ufc is seeking attention every time they jump on a boxer. no hating on these guys but on a stand up ground any ufc fighter will get murdered by a boxer, period. end of sentence. they are all conditioned athletes involved in a competitive sport, and that's what they should stick to, their own sport. seriously did any baseball player ever start **** with a basketball player or vice versa. these are different sports, and in the end it's all hypetalking BS, cus no boxer would ever agree to rules of UFC, just as MMA guys wont agree to boxing rules. in the end it's all empty talk, why waste the energy. this whole **** is ****** altogether, this is a boxing website, why are there threads about UFC???

im not a hater, i enjoy UFC as well, but there are different forums for this ****.

This whole **** talking began like what 2 years ago. during that period how many boxers stepepd up in MMA ring???? that's what i thought, and dont even start with tommy morrison.

[fathergll]

[I]There is no comparison with the Mir-Lesnar MMA match. Lesnar was a proven grappler and a legit tough guy. This is entirely different. Nobody would pay to see the unqualified Silva get punched out by a former champion in a boxing match. People aren't that ******. You wouldn't see more than 100,00 buys for it. If they make the fight (and they won't), contact me and we can discuss it some more.

As I stated before, you don't know anything about marketing. With the proper promoter this thing does over 500,000 buys. Thats why the UFC is brilliant at what they do, they are brilliant at marketing. Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight did around 40,000 buys. UFC got a hold of him and did 650,000 buys in his second MMA fight. De La Hoya Mayweather only did those insane PPV #s because HBO did the 24/7 shows. You think they would gotten any where near 2.15 million without HBO's brilliant documentary?


Its all about promoting the product...and the right promoter can sell a lot of PPVs with these two.

[Scott9945]

As I stated before, you don't know anything about marketing. With the proper promoter this thing does over 500,000 buys. Thats why the UFC is brilliant at what they do, they are brilliant at marketing. Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight did around 40,000 buys. UFC got a hold of him and did 650,000 buys in his second MMA fight. De La Hoya Mayweather only did those insane PPV #s because HBO did the 24/7 shows. You think they would gotten any where near 2.15 million without HBO's brilliant documentary?


Its all about promoting the product...and the right promoter can sell a lot of PPVs with these two.

Well if it's such a good idea, how come nobody has tried it? The UFC fight you speak of was a co-main event, and those numbers aren't unprecented for one of their shows. I think it is you that doesn't understand marketing. Most boxing fans don't care about carnival sports.

[fathergll]

This whole **** talking began like what 2 years ago. during that period how many boxers stepepd up in MMA ring???? that's what i thought, and dont even start with tommy morrison.

What about Kimbo vs Ray Mercer? Mercer was in his prime right?



j/k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UcmIQ4xLrY

[Boogie Nights]

What about Kimbo vs Ray Mercer? Mercer was in his prime right?



j/k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UcmIQ4xLrY

i've seen that fight, and i knew the result before it happened. Mercer is too old, and too fat to be participating in any sport. and by that i mean even golf. the guy is so old that he might pull a muscle at a swing of a golf club. mercer knows that he cant go on with boxing anymore, the guy is pushing 50 and his name wont do much on any up and coming fighter's record, eventhough mercer is a big name.

morrison on the other hand, wont get licensed to fight anywhere unless it's mexico, so he did a one time thing in the MMA ring. Logic is simple, they were standing, morrison threw a left hook and smashed the guys bose in bloody bits. Took the bread home, and after that Chuck Lidell stopped wanting to fight him all of a sudden lol

[fathergll]

[I][B][FONT=Arial]Well if it's such a good idea, how come nobody has tried it?

Simple Silva is the first guy to get such a high status who happens to also have sick standup skills in MMA. Also Silva is the first guy to actually ask for it(which I find it hard to believe he would actually would want to do it unless the payday is there.)

The UFC fight you speak of was a co-main event, and those numbers aren't unprecented for one of their shows. I think it is you that doesn't understand marketing. Most boxing fans don't care about carnival sports.

LOL...co-main event. Do you know that the Lesnar Mir was the original main event that was promoted. Then they signed on Sylvia vs Nogeria and ONLY had that as the last match because it was an Interm HW fight. The draw was for Lesnar Mir.

You what the numbers were predicted with out the Lesnar Mir were? 350,000...there was an article on it last month descibing Lesnar's impact on ratings.

UFC ppvs do not normally do over 600,000. Yes there has been some....UFC 79, 71, 66 and 61 are the only ones I believe that have and they were all huge established names in MMA. Liddell, Ortiz, Gracie....UFC was able to get a Lesnar PPV, a guy with 1 mma fight against a complete can with 40,000 PPVs previous, and sell one of their highest grossing events.

[Mickey Gomez]

Thats a completely false statement. Yes there is a large portion of MMA fans that used to watch wrestling, yes there are current wrestling fans that watch MMA. But you can't make a statement like "Wrestling fans are also MMA fans" Thats ridiculous...I have yet to meet one MMA fan who watches WWE. Not to say they are not out there but the majority of MMA fans do not watch wrestling.

******, have you ever heard of marketing databases? or target market?

Wrestling and MMA share a large part of their respective demographics. (it's quite evident where you are in this demographic). Granted the WWE aim their product at a younger audience, but there is a huge overlap with MMA's market. All you have to do is notice the advertisementsand sponsors that appear during both shows.