Why Would Alfonso Gomez Beat Miguel Cotto?

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  • -EX-
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    #31
    Only way I see Cotto lose is if he beats himself. Unless Gomez hits like a middleweight and can hurt Cotto in a slugfest. No way will he outbox Cotto.

    I'd be shocked if Cotto lost.

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    • Stormin' Norman
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      #32
      Originally posted by Asian Sensation
      I don't see why people would say so. Miguel Cotto is undefeated, but hasn't been protected like alot of undefeated fighters. He's fought guys like Shane Mosley, Ricardo Torres, Zab Judah, Carlos Quintana, and Paulie Malignaggi. He's gained a wealth of experience as a young champion and has become a complete fighter.

      Contrast that with Alfonso Gomez, whose biggest wins have been Peter Manfredo, Ben Tackie, and Arturo Gatti.

      The Manfredo fight was a 5 round fight.

      Ben Tackie and Arturo Gatti were both beyond finished and I'm surprised either was sanctioned to fight.

      You can point to Cotto's chin as a reason why Gomez is gonna win, but a puncher's chance means little when you're up against world talent. Cotto has shown a much tougher beard at 147 so I'd forget the Corley and Torres fights for a little. The only guy who rocked Cotto at 147 was Zab Judah and Judah is a much sharper puncher.

      Alfonso Gomez looked like Roberto Duran beating on a smaller Arturo Gatti, but that version of Gatti was a sad imitation of "Thunder", a shadow of a man. Gatti was stationary and didn't have the legs to move around or defend himself anymore. Do you think Cotto would lay against the ropes and let Gomez measure him for a haymaker?

      Gomez isn't particularly fast, strong, or skilled. He's going to be a sitting target for Cotto's body attack.

      Class shows in boxing, and I think that will be the main difference when these guys fight.
      many people probably felt the same way about your boy in the avatar there, Mr. Campbell.

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      • MentalExecution
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        #33
        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        Let's get away from Robinson, I think you're hanging on an analogy that deals more with perceptions than magnitude. I don't think you are grasping what I'm trying to say here. What I meant is that the caliber of opposition he faced made Gatti look better than he really was. The epitome of fighters who are better than Gatti is Ray Robinson, whom no one was ever better than.

        If I haven't satisfied your curiosity I can send you a PM.
        Chill the **** even c'monmang kept posting the SSR stuff but your not bitching to him, and I do get wtf your saying just chill the **** out damn

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          #34
          Originally posted by The_Executioner
          Only way I see Cotto lose is if he beats himself. Unless Gomez hits like a middleweight and can hurt Cotto in a slugfest. No way will he outbox Cotto.

          I'd be shocked if Cotto lost.

          I'll be shocked if it is even competitive.

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            #35
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            Hyperbole, Ryan's not dumb
            Yes I am, Arturo Gatti is Ray Robinson.

            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            Gomez' (or is it Gomez's?) size, toughness, and jab is what makes this a somewhat competitive fight. I still don't see how he can win. I can see him winning 4 rounds maybe. His only shot is if he can hurt Cotto, and he doesn't have that type of power.

            His last two fights he hasn't been tested. Gatti was head hunting with wide, slower than usual haymakers. He was never going to the body either. Gomez even said after the fight, "I just kept ducking because he was only aiming for my head." Tackie was pretty much the same except he's even slower, and he only throws three punches.

            In the 8th round when Cotto starts to get going, Gomez will already begin to tire. By the 11th and 12th round, he'll be like Judah was.
            What makes me believe that Cotto will be too much for Gomez is that Gomez doesn't make adjustments in fights. Cotto only has to look for that one thing, which is that Gomez is going to be headhunting. An elite fighter should be able to beat a guy who is only doing one thing.

            Also, I don't like Gomez's mindset heading in. He's gotten kind of Hollywood after beating Gatti, like that legitimizes him more as a fighter. You put anyone else from The Contender in that fight and Gatti still loses. I believe he's a little overconfident going into this fight. It reminds me of Carlos Quintana before the fight with Cotto. I took one look at Quintana's relaxed body posture and self-assurance and could see that he had no idea what he was in for.

            If Gomez really believes that he's going to outclass Cotto like he says he is, this fight won't go 6.

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              #36
              Originally posted by RightHook3
              Chill the **** even c'monmang kept posting the SSR stuff but your not bitching to him, and I do get wtf your saying just chill the **** out damn
              I expect it from that kid, he's a troll. I'm chill, are you chill?

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                #37
                I am lol, I was joking around with that SSR stuff, but I aint trying to diss you, ilike your **** but i aint being disrespectful peace

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Stormin' Norman
                  many people probably felt the same way about your boy in the avatar there, Mr. Campbell.
                  Different story. Campbell has been in tough and beat guys by outclassing them. His skills and style were primed for the next level. On top of that, Juan Diaz is not Miguel Cotto. Two different stories, two different levels.

                  Gomez has been beating guys by being younger and just through sheer toughness. That won't get you far when you're at the top, you need some substance.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RightHook3
                    I am lol, I was joking around with that SSR stuff, but I aint trying to diss you, ilike your **** but i aint being disrespectful peace
                    It's all love, that c'monmang kid is a serious troll. His parents should suspend his internet privileges.

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                    • HitBattousai
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                      Yes I am, Arturo Gatti is Ray Robinson.



                      What makes me believe that Cotto will be too much for Gomez is that Gomez doesn't make adjustments in fights. Cotto only has to look for that one thing, which is that Gomez is going to be headhunting. An elite fighter should be able to beat a guy who is only doing one thing.

                      Also, I don't like Gomez's mindset heading in. He's gotten kind of Hollywood after beating Gatti, like that legitimizes him more as a fighter. You put anyone else from The Contender in that fight and Gatti still loses. I believe he's a little overconfident going into this fight. It reminds me of Carlos Quintana before the fight with Cotto. I took one look at Quintana's relaxed body posture and self-assurance and could see that he had no idea what he was in for.

                      If Gomez really believes that he's going to outclass Cotto like he says he is, this fight won't go 6.
                      Gomez's most damaging single punch is the left hook to the body. He did say that in interviews that Cotto's weakness is his chin, but he also said that ppl didn't go to the body on Cotto like they should, and that he planned to mix it up(which he usually does anyway). Cotto will have to be wary of punches to both the head and body.

                      It will at least be competitive. Gomez has good all-around skills, is very durable, and though his power is only average at best, he is maybe the best combination puncher that Cotto will have faced(Shane should have this title, but his combination punching has gone out the window in his old age). He also throws every punch in the book at a high volume(around 85-90 punches per round even when he's taking punishment), including the uppercut, which Cotto has yet to defend against well.

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